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how much sust should i do.....

Still_big

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a week in my cyc.............5'10 200lbs, about 5th cycle and been off for a year.

?nile sust 12wks
400mg deca 12wks
30mgdbol 6wks
 
500mg will do you well. Run the dbol for the first 4 weeks to kick start the cycle. What does your PCT look like?
 
hit it right on...500mg of sust will kick major ass...250mg twice a week...youll get allot of bloat with the dbol and sust combo but its well worth it...good luck
 
Still_big said:
a week in my cyc.............5'10 200lbs, about 5th cycle and been off for a year.

?nile sust 12wks
400mg deca 12wks
30mgdbol 6wks
500 mg of sust/wk is too much in conjunction with dianabol. my suggestion is to run 250 mg of sust/wk with 40-50mg dianabol/day. 400mg of deca/wk is fine. expect some water retention with the deca and dianabol. 8 week cycle should do (this doesn't include your PCT).

running a 12wk cycle with 500mg/sust and 400 mg/deca will constitute heavier PCT as in HCG iu's per day of your shot AND chlomid/nolvadex therapy dosages. Also your time of PCT will increase. in other words, running a 12 wk cycle is not a good idea with these.

"Impossible is nothing unless you're up shit creek without a paddle".
 
Whobestankin' said:
500 mg of sust/wk is too much in conjunction with dianabol. my suggestion is to run 250 mg of sust/wk with 40-50mg dianabol/day. 400mg of deca/wk is fine. expect some water retention with the deca and dianabol. 8 week cycle should do (this doesn't include your PCT).

running a 12wk cycle with 500mg/sust and 400 mg/deca will constitute heavier PCT as in HCG iu's per day of your shot AND chlomid/nolvadex therapy dosages. Also your time of PCT will increase. in other words, running a 12 wk cycle is not a good idea with these.

"Impossible is nothing unless you're up shit creek without a paddle".

The advice you give about the sust and dianabol dosage isn't wrong, but a matter of opinion. You can go two routes. Sust @ 500mg and 30mg dbol. Or Sust @ 250 and 40 -50mg. Either way you are lowering one and raising the other. Since he has been off a year, I think 40 - 50mg dbol is a little too harsh for him.
 
The advice you give about the sust and dianabol dosage isn't wrong, but a matter of opinion. You can go two routes. Sust @ 500mg and 30mg dbol. Or Sust @ 250 and 40 -50mg. Either way you are lowering one and raising the other. Since he has been off a year, I think 40 - 50mg dbol is a little too harsh for him.
do you not think running 500mg of sust for 12 weeks isn't harsh after being clean for a year? i think it's a waste (in my opinion).

he hasn't come back and stated his PCT as of yet. let's wait and see what that is before we can conclude what is best.

"Impossible is nothing unless you're up shit creek without a paddle".
 
For his fifth cycle, at 200lbs if he's lean I don't think 500mg. is too much. I would be surprised if this amount were dead on until the end of the dbol when he might even up the test to 750. This is all dependent on his past history though and what his typical cycles have looked like. The thing I was thinking though was if this is his 5th cycle and he is doing a year off between cycles then he probably hits the sauce for all it worth that one time per year. I know alot of guys who take this route, though I couldn't wait that long consistently, and get results like they were newbies almost evey time. Alot of the reason that this method gives them a little more latitude in upping the dosages b/c they have a fresh system and so long to recover. It is all gonna be based on his past cycles though, but 500mg with 30mg of dbol isn't out of the ballpark IMO atleast.
 
idcbp said:
For his fifth cycle, at 200lbs if he's lean I don't think 500mg. is too much. I would be surprised if this amount were dead on until the end of the dbol when he might even up the test to 750. This is all dependent on his past history though and what his typical cycles have looked like. The thing I was thinking though was if this is his 5th cycle and he is doing a year off between cycles then he probably hits the sauce for all it worth that one time per year. I know alot of guys who take this route, though I couldn't wait that long consistently, and get results like they were newbies almost evey time. Alot of the reason that this method gives them a little more latitude in upping the dosages b/c they have a fresh system and so long to recover. It is all gonna be based on his past cycles though, but 500mg with 30mg of dbol isn't out of the ballpark IMO atleast.
I'm not a chemical scientist or engineer so to say that my method is the only way is ludicrous. I don't have years, years and years of experience when it comes to AAS as i doubt anyone on this board has either. However, I do see some positive aspects in your response, but the most negative one and it seems to be the main point is: " Alot of the reason that this method gives them a little more latitude in upping the dosages b/c they have a fresh system and so long to recover". If you have been around these compounds for any period of time you should know that when you are fresh and your receptor sites are fully restored it doesn't take as much as one might think. So, upping dosages after being off for a year or so doesn't mean that this is the reason he/she is gaining so efficiently. Consequently if one stays on AAS for a good period of time (assuming he/she as done their PCT effectively after their respective cycles) his/her body will adapt to the supplied amount to their system therefore creating a demand for higher dosages.

Now, you and I aren't saviours but if this guy wants to spend his money on extra gear that really won't help that much then this is his priority. I'm just trying to save the man some money and let him gain a little knowledge.

"Impossible is nothing unless you're up shit creek without a paddle."
 
500mg/week IS NOT too mjuch in conjunction with D-bol. I'd skip the Sus though and use a single ester test, such as Cyp.
 
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