How much Primo + Anavar to avoid shutdown?

[confid12000]

I am thinking of a Primobolan + Anavar cycle for next April. Which doses would you guys recommend if you want to avoid shutdown??

I have been on Deca for 10 weeks and I am having some trouble to recover my libido (maybe my age, 40, doesn't help), so I do not want to get into this same problem again!

 

[smb_69]

I was in the same flipping boat last year - get Unleashed and Post-cylce from proteinfactory.com - that would help. Also, proviron for a week or so. Deca shuts you down hard. Primo does not do that as bad, but get the same stuff as well for your post cylce recovery. 30-40mg of var /ED + 400mg of primo/wk would work great.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

My Opininon...

45mg - 55mg var per day -- 100mg Primo eod.
You won't see huge gains but for a cutting cycle it is all you should need.
Btw- you can always add some Unleashed and Postcycle from www.proteinfactory.com it will help keep your natural test levels up or even raise them.

 

[genarr3]

To start with you're using the wrong terminology. The word you should be using is suppression. All steroids will suppress your natural test production some degree, some more then others. Primobolan and Anavar would be in the less suppressive category. However you will get some suppression from them.

If you're having libido issues you need to determine why.

The only way to know for sure is to get blood work done and find out where your test levels are. Otherwise you are just guessing.
If in fact your test levels are low that needs to be addressed before using steroids.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

If you are 40, and are concerned with your physique, you should realize that you are already shuting down. Stop cycling and either go on HRT, or stay on year round. The primary negative effect of staying on year round is htpa suppression, but past 40 it is just going to continue to go down, so this is not really an issue at this point.

 

[confid12000]

Genarr3, my libido problems come from Deca: 10 weeks at 200mg pw + 20mg Winny ED + 25mg Anavar ED. I am finishing now PCT and it is slooowly starting to get better. Nevertheless, I will take several blood tests before my next cycle.

And the winner is... BodyByFinaplix! Man, I have never been told anything so depressing about my age! In any case, I am just 39, not 40 until the very end of January, so I still get a month of youth, right?

 

[confid12000]

And...excuse the ignorance of an old newbie, what is HRT? Sounds well... Year round sounds too agressive for me anyway...

 

[genarr3]

Genarr3, my libido problems come from Deca: 10 weeks at 200mg pw + 20mg Winny ED + 25mg Anavar ED. I am finishing now PCT and it is slooowly starting to get better. Nevertheless, I will take several blood tests before my next cycle.

And the winner is... BodyByFinaplix! Man, I have never been told anything so depressing about my age! In any case, I am just 39, not 40 until the very end of January, so I still get a month of youth, right?

Well Mr Finaplix is probably in his twenties and likely sees anyone over 30 as near death.
HRT = Hormone Replacement Therapy<Test replacement>
Suggesting HRT without knowing your natural testosterone production is silly.
Yes, natural test production will take a downward slide as you age, but not necessarily to the degree he implies. As to it not being an issue, some of use like that free test our bodies make, and the thought of regular injects for the rest of our lives isn't very appealing.

Give yourself some time to recover natually. At least a couple of months before you view your blood work as your natual state and not the result of your use of Deca.

 

[nsashbl01]

I did 40mg/d Var and 400mg/wk Primo last Summer. It was my only cycle. My nuts never shrank and I felt great within weeks. After a few weeks of pct I began to see small gains and I felt the same as I did for years. I was thinking of a short cycle so I got bloodwork done. My test was 222 and 160! After a month of endo appointments and a bunch of bloodwork, I'm on hrt. The doc thinks it's likely caused by multiple head injurys when I was growing up. It at least explains a lot of my complaints over the last 10 years.

The Primo cycle was nice though. I felt good for once and gained some good lean muscle. Now I'm not sure if I'll ever add to my prescribed Cyp? I still have some extra goodies!