How much eq do you frontload?

[ryan04]

Lets say, hypothetically speaking, I was going to go on a 14 wk. eq and test cycle (test ran for 12) ran at 400 mgs. a week eq and 625 mgs. a wk test. How much eq should I frontload and for how long?

 

[TheRide]

None, I feel frontloading a long acting ether such as EQ is a waste of gear. IMHO.

 

[The Shadow]

None, I feel frontloading a long acting ether such as EQ is a waste of gear. IMHO.

...nope...it works.....




whatever the weekly dose - you front load 2-3x hat much in 2-3 injections

 

[Ulter]

Don't front load Eq. Eq causes an increase in red blood cells. That's OK until you get TOO many. Then your blood gets thicker and it clogs in your capillaries.

 

[javaguru]

I would only front load test and that's at 2x your planned weekly dosage the first week. It really only makes sense with longer esters, no point in front loading prop.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

...nope...it works.....




whatever the weekly dose - you front load 2-3x hat much in 2-3 injections

...nope...it doesn't.....

do not front load EQ^

 

[Slyder190]

I front loaded with EQ once. Only steroid I ever did this with. used 1000mg the first week and 800mg the second week and then 600mg/week thereafter and had gyno symptoms around the first or 2nd week. I combatted them rather easily, but I still got the symptoms from the mega dose.

 

[Judo Tom]

im gonna double my first 2 dosages of eq when i start it.. hopefully 2morrow

 

[The Shadow]

HERE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR FRONT LOADING EQ....IT DOES NOT CAUSE A HIGHER BLOOD CONCENTRATION THAN WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE BY A STANDARD 600 PER WEEK...THIS IS A TOTAL LOAD OF 1200 MG DURING THE FIRST WEEK


YOU DEVEOLPED GYNO FROM EQ??

IT DOESNT AROMATIZE.......WERE YOU TAKING ANYTHING WITH IT??


HERE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR FRONT LOADING EQ....IT DOES NOT CAUSE A HIGHER BLOOD CONCENTRATION THAN WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE BY A STANDARD 600 PER WEEK...THIS IS A TOTAL LOAD OF 1200 MG DURING THE FIRST WEEK


YOU DEVEOLPED GYNO FROM EQ??

IT DOESNT AROMATIZE.......WERE YOU TAKING ANYTHING WITH IT??

RoidCalculator Diagram viewing total roids in blood
Injects Day Total mg in blood/day
1200mg(8) 1 1140 mg
2 1033 mg
3 935 mg
4 847 mg
5 767 mg
6 695 mg
7 629 mg
600mg(8) 8 1140 mg
9 1033 mg
10 935 mg
11 847 mg
12 767 mg
13 695 mg
14 629 mg
600mg(8) 15 1140 mg
16 1033 mg
17 935 mg
18 847 mg
19 767 mg
20 695 mg
21 629 mg
600mg(8) 22 1140 mg
23 1033 mg
24 935 mg
25 847 mg
26 767 mg
27 695 mg
28 629 mg
600mg(8) 29 1140 mg
30 1033 mg
31 935 mg
32 847 mg
33 767 mg
34 695 mg
35 629 mg
600mg(8) 36 1140 mg
37 1033 mg
38 935 mg
39 847 mg
40 767 mg
41 695 mg
42 629 mg
600mg(8) 43 1140 mg
44 1033 mg
45 935 mg
46 847 mg
47 767 mg
48 695 mg
49 629 mg
600mg(8) 50 1140 mg
51 1033 mg
52 935 mg
53 847 mg
54 767 mg
55 695 mg
56 629 mg







IMO - I SEE NO REASON WHY FRONT LOADING ISNT AN OPTION...IT DOESNT OVERLY RAMP BLOOD LEVELS...IT GETS IN YOUR SYSTEM A BIT FASTER THAN TRADITIONAL DOSINGS....

 

[TheRide]

I front loaded with EQ once. Only steroid I ever did this with. used 1000mg the first week and 800mg the second week and then 600mg/week thereafter and had gyno symptoms around the first or 2nd week. I combatted them rather easily, but I still got the symptoms from the mega dose.

Did you see any dramatic difference fronting it?

 

[TheRide]

I would only front load test and that's at 2x your planned weekly dosage the first week. It really only makes sense with longer esters, no point in front loading prop.

Really? I was always under the impression of the opposite. Front load short ethers to elevate blood level quickly and longer acting one was pointless b/c of the time it takes for them to kick in.

 

[The Shadow]

On the front load - you hit max blood levels after 8 days.....

1140 mg



on a 600 per week.....you dont hit that 100 mark until week 7-8:

RoidCalculator Diagram viewing total roids in blood
Injects Day Total mg in blood/day
600mg(8) 1 570 mg
2 516 mg
3 468 mg
4 424 mg
5 384 mg
6 347 mg
7 315 mg
600mg(8) 8 855 mg
9 774 mg
10 701 mg
11 635 mg
12 575 mg
13 521 mg
14 472 mg
600mg(8) 15 998 mg
16 903 mg
17 818 mg
18 741 mg
19 671 mg
20 608 mg
21 551 mg
600mg(8) 22 1069 mg
23 968 mg
24 877 mg
25 794 mg
26 719 mg
27 651 mg
28 590 mg
600mg(8) 29 1104 mg
30 1000 mg
31 906 mg
32 821 mg
33 743 mg
34 673 mg
35 610 mg
600mg(8) 36 1122 mg
37 1016 mg
38 921 mg
39 834 mg
40 755 mg
41 684 mg
42 619 mg
600mg(8) 43 1131 mg
44 1024 mg
45 928 mg
46 840 mg
47 761 mg
48 689 mg
49 624 mg
600mg(8) 50 1136 mg
51 1028 mg
52 932 mg
53 844 mg
54 764 mg
55 692 mg





so.....8 days versus 29 at the very least

 

[Judo Tom]

i cant wait!!!!!

i notice a huge difference when i front load test e so eq should work about the same.. im hoping anyhow

 

[roadkill75]

On the front load - you hit max blood levels after 8 days.....

1140 mg



on a 600 per week.....you dont hit that 100 mark until week 7-8:

RoidCalculator Diagram viewing total roids in blood
Injects Day Total mg in blood/day
600mg(8) 1 570 mg
2 516 mg
3 468 mg
4 424 mg
5 384 mg
6 347 mg
7 315 mg
600mg(8) 8 855 mg
9 774 mg
10 701 mg
11 635 mg
12 575 mg
13 521 mg
14 472 mg
600mg(8) 15 998 mg
16 903 mg
17 818 mg
18 741 mg
19 671 mg
20 608 mg
21 551 mg
600mg(8) 22 1069 mg
23 968 mg
24 877 mg
25 794 mg
26 719 mg
27 651 mg
28 590 mg
600mg(8) 29 1104 mg
30 1000 mg
31 906 mg
32 821 mg
33 743 mg
34 673 mg
35 610 mg
600mg(8) 36 1122 mg
37 1016 mg
38 921 mg
39 834 mg
40 755 mg
41 684 mg
42 619 mg
600mg(8) 43 1131 mg
44 1024 mg
45 928 mg
46 840 mg
47 761 mg
48 689 mg
49 624 mg
600mg(8) 50 1136 mg
51 1028 mg
52 932 mg
53 844 mg
54 764 mg
55 692 mg





so.....8 days versus 29 at the very least

the way you explain it, you can frontload any AS, couldn't you? besides the sides, of course.

 

[The Shadow]

the way you explain it, you can frontload any AS, couldn't you? besides the sides, of course.

sure....


the key is to manipulate levels so that you get the max dosage from a "straight dosing scheme"...but get it early on.


the 1200 front load of EQ gets you the max dosage by day 8

 

[Makavelli]

I agree with Shadow. Let's say you're base of EQ is 400 mgs, this is the method that I use: Week 1-800 mgs, Week 2-600 mgs, Week 3-400 mgs. I notice the EQ quicker. One needs to keep in mind that half life doesn't mean that the whole dose is dropped at one time in your blood. The blood levels rise as time goes on. It only makes sense then that if you double the dosage, then more will hit your blood quicker, causing elevated blood levels quicker.

 

[2lunatics_ina_rubber_room]

I agree with Shadow. Let's say you're base of EQ is 400 mgs, this is the method that I use: Week 1-800 mgs, Week 2-600 mgs, Week 3-400 mgs. I notice the EQ quicker. One needs to keep in mind that half life doesn't mean that the whole dose is dropped at one time in your blood. The blood levels rise as time goes on. It only makes sense then that if you double the dosage, then more will hit your blood quicker, causing elevated blood levels quicker.

I whole heartedly agree. I am running an EQ/Winy cycle right now. I front loaded the EQ the first two weeks, just started the Winny at week six. It kicked in with very noticeable gains and pumps around the three week mark.

I have talked to other people who like EQ and always front load. They tell me that they notice the effects of EQ kicking in sooner when they front load. My experience is no different.