How Long???

[JKurz1]

Do you typically wait after your PCT to start your new cycle?

 

[BIGJAKE]

time on time off so the same time it took your last cycle you need at least the same time off.

 

[JKurz1]

Understood, now let's say youve been off for over a year, but using PCT cause you are shut down?

 

[Nucman]

How do you know you're shut down? Did you get blood work done? Shut down for a year post cycle, is a serous problem. Yo might need to talk to the doc about hrt.

 

[bicepts101]

how long where u previoulsy on jkurz

 

[JKurz1]

I just never rebounded from deca/sus stack a year ago........nothing big.........then took some prohormones and got locked up......how long do u guys typically wait?

 

[bicepts101]

I just never rebounded from deca/sus stack a year ago........nothing big.........then took some prohormones and got locked up......how long do u guys typically wait?

well idealy...you wait untill you hpta returns back to normal..the time on=time off thing is not necessarily a rule of thumb. its basically saying: ok, if a user is on for 12 weeks it should take 4-8 weeks to recover then the rest of the duration you let your body stay in the normalization stage....

...anyway, what im trying to say is..you should really wait untill you fully recover..thats the point of time off isnt? if you dont want kids in the future i would just stay on and never come off....JMO

 

[JKurz1]

well idealy...you wait untill you hpta returns back to normal..the time on=time off thing is not necessarily a rule of thumb. its basically saying: ok, i user is on for 12 weeks it should take 4-8 weeks to recover then the rest of the duration you let your body stay in the normalization stage....

...anyway, what im trying to is..you should really wait untill you fully recover..thats the point of time off isnt? if you dont want kids in the future i would just stay on and never come off....JMO

Of course I want kids......I started my PCT today........6 week process, then bloodwork.......then, hopefully, I'm up to snuff.......

How do you normally feel on PCT? Clomid, nolv, and hcg........strong? Moody? Appetite? Dos your BF increase? Hold water?

 

[wnt2bBeast]

you have to know where your baseline levels..when you return to that range or close to it youre ready for another cycle..it may work out to be time on=time off opr it could be longer or shorter..

 

[instant.muscle]

what do u mean recovered from ur sust deca stack? im on sust cycle now, what do u mean by recover? wtf happened

 

[bicepts101]

Of course I want kids......I started my PCT today........6 week process, then bloodwork.......then, hopefully, I'm up to snuff.......

How do you normally feel on PCT? Clomid, nolv, and hcg........strong? Moody? Appetite? Dos your BF increase? Hold water?

i didnt really notice water gain...i lose some strength...i ussually feel the same during pct then i do on cycle..and that is sluggish. little moody, sleep late, hungry.....idk im wierd though.

 

[slat1]

I hate prohormones.. they will shut you down worse than deca!
I usually do two ten weekers a year. The second starting six months after the first!

 

[JKurz1]

what do u mean recovered from ur sust deca stack? im on sust cycle now, what do u mean by recover? wtf happened

you had better do some research man.............esp. on the word recover

 

[JKurz1]

I really want to know how PCT makes you guys feel......how long into do you start to notice change?

 

[gab9681]

I always go by time on = time off + a week or two. Before running another cycle I would definitely get some bloodwork done. Once you are back to baseline, I would let it ride for a while if I were you. Especially if you have been shut down for a while. For my PCT, I always run clomid. I keep Nolva on hand in case of gyno, but I haven't had to use it yet. On clomid, I tend to get a little moody about 3-4 days into it. I run it at 300mgs the first day, 100mgs the next 6 days, and then 50mgs for the next 1.5 weeks or so. If I am using liquid clomid, I am fine, just slightly more moody but nothing I can't easily handle. If I am using Clomid tabs, I tend to feel worse about things. I get easily upset over stupid shit and I get emotional over suttle things. For instance, I will look at my wife and just want to hug her and get all teared up and shit. The first time I used clomid was the worst, because I didn't know what to expect, but now that I know, I can usually control that shit and not act like a vagina. I also tend to feel "small" while on PCT. I keep thinking that I am shrinking so I really hit the weights hard and keep eating piles and piles of clean food. But even so, I still get the smalls.

 

[JKurz1]

I always go by time on = time off + a week or two. Before running another cycle I would definitely get some bloodwork done. Once you are back to baseline, I would let it ride for a while if I were you. Especially if you have been shut down for a while. For my PCT, I always run clomid. I keep Nolva on hand in case of gyno, but I haven't had to use it yet. On clomid, I tend to get a little moody about 3-4 days into it. I run it at 300mgs the first day, 100mgs the next 6 days, and then 50mgs for the next 1.5 weeks or so. If I am using liquid clomid, I am fine, just slightly more moody but nothing I can't easily handle. If I am using Clomid tabs, I tend to feel worse about things. I get easily upset over stupid shit and I get emotional over suttle things. For instance, I will look at my wife and just want to hug her and get all teared up and shit. The first time I used clomid was the worst, because I didn't know what to expect, but now that I know, I can usually control that shit and not act like a vagina. I also tend to feel "small" while on PCT. I keep thinking that I am shrinking so I really hit the weights hard and keep eating piles and piles of clean food. But even so, I still get the smalls.

Green to you bro.........good stuff.........I just started yesterday, 1,000mg MWF, 100mg clomid ED, 20mg Nolv. ED for 3 weeks.......then 50/20 clomid,nolv. for 2nd 3 weeks......

How long till your boys kick in? You tend to gain weight/fat? Prob. will start getting the symptoms late this week.........I'll cry to you!

 

[gab9681]

My boys are usually back to normal in about a week or so. Then I still have that extra week of clomid which really get the boys rolling. You can really "paint the walls" so to speak. If you have never done clomid before, you are in for a real treat. Unless you are one of the few that doesn't get affected by it as much. If you have a significant other, she will probably torture you the whole time like mine does. She thinks its funny that she can get the best of me. I let her have her fun for the couple weeks though. She has to wear the pants every now and again ya know.

 

[JKurz1]

My boys are usually back to normal in about a week or so. Then I still have that extra week of clomid which really get the boys rolling. You can really "paint the walls" so to speak. If you have never done clomid before, you are in for a real treat. Unless you are one of the few that doesn't get affected by it as much. If you have a significant other, she will probably torture you the whole time like mine does. She thinks its funny that she can get the best of me. I let her have her fun for the couple weeks though. She has to wear the pants every now and again ya know.

So, after a week, I should start to feel a difference? Day 2 and zilch thus far...I've taken 1000mg of hcg and 200mg of clomid.....40mg of nolv