how long until my next cycle?

[eddie1]

i just finished a 12 weeks cycle of

500mg test e weeks 1-12
40mg tbol 1-4
80mg var 5-12
proviron 5-12

Im currently on my third week of pct with nolva at 20mg. first 2 weeks were at 40mg.

how long until i can start my next cycle? im addictited and cant wait! im gonna do pretty much the same cept for winny instead of var and throw in some EQ and more pct. thanks

 

[solidspine]

Old rule of thumb time on, time off,


I’m on all the time so can’t really give stable advice.

 

[eddie1]

damn i dont think there is any way i can wait 9 more weeks what does everyone else think?

 

[bw1]

damn i dont think there is any way i can wait 9 more weeks what does everyone else think?

You won't wait, so what does it matter

 

[nisser512]

Read and rethink.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328406

 

[pitbullrocco]

dude. use your head. just because you want to throw a cyanide-laced steak across the fence to your neighbors dogs b/c they never shut the fuck up doesn't mean you should do it.

think about your body bro....your manhood....you wanna fuck up your endocrine system? was this your first cycle? it must've not went as good as you wanted?

are you planning on getting blood tests?

 

[eddie1]

u guys got a great point. i know its just hard b/c i have all this gear thats accessible and i cant do anything w it. no i prolly wont have blood work donw, this is not my first cycle (5th). I just loved the cycle so much i wanna do it again. so then should i wait another 9 weeks (12 total) or wait longer than that? thanks guys for makin me see the light.

 

[dsh89]

The options are to either wait time on/time off, or go to a doctor and when your blood levels have returned to baseline, you can start again.

 

[elmrod]

12 wks off bro!!

 

[treneriffic]

I think its best to at least do the time on = time off thing. I dont see the point of running a pct and then jumping right back on even if your blood tests come back good.
Whats the point of that??? You might as well just stay on and cycle different compounds. If your going to come off you should give your body a break instead of just hopping right back on just after pct...thats pointless.

 

[Ulter]

Time on = time off is arbitrary. It's not based in any science whatsoever.
When you're on your HPTA is shut down. When you come off and do PCT, unlike what many people post, the PCT is NOT to keep your gains. It's to start your HPTA up again and restart your natural test. Okay. So now your 3 weeks into your HPTA running again and your endocrine system is pumping out Test, LH, FSH, and you feel good. Now what? What are you staying off for now? Come on all you people saying to stay off for 12 weeks tell me what you're staying off FOR.
Are you going to tell me, as some post, you're going to clean off your receptors? You're giving your body a rest? A rest from what?
The fact is there is no reason to stay off once you've established that you can get your HPTA back up and running again.

 

[pitbullrocco]

ulter, what if you do that 10 times (or many times)? i.e. start big cycles back up as soon as you bring your hpta back up? still doesn't matter? its not like your thyroid where you can ruin it if you "overstimulate" it?

shit, i don't know.....but do your best to convince me to start my next cycle in december instead of february......

 

[eddie1]

wow anybody else agree w ulter? so after i do my pct is it cool to start my next cycle? does it matter with ur liver and the orals?

 

[pitbullrocco]

i would get a blood test first. i'm sure sir ulter would agree......

 

[eddie1]

how much does a blood test cost w no insurance?

Im a 23 year old college student who is on my own.....

 

[pitbullrocco]

just got mine done and they billed my insurance $1600. that was for every damn test possible though (b/c i've never had blood tests taken before in my life)......you don't necessarily have to get everything.....i think free test, LH levels and probably good idea to check lipid/cholesterol levels.....should be only ones that matter in your case.....i would guess no more than $400-500. (endocrinologist aren't cheap)

someone with little more knowledge should throw you a bone though.....

oh, there are websites you can scan through.....one i know of off hand is directlabs.com. there's another one, but i can't find the link....

 

[tempest2003]

holy god damn 1600, our fucking medical industry pisses me off sometimes i swear, glad i have insurance, shitty insurance at that, but i couldnt afford shit if i didnt.

 

[pitbullrocco]

doctors = overpaid meat magicians.