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How long to wait inbetween cycles?

AMGETR

AMGETR

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I should be done my current cycle by the middle of December if all goes to plan. So when should I be ok to start my next one?

I'm thinking either one of the two stacks:

1. Normo, NNP, Proviron, Dosinex, HCG (13 week cycle + 2-3 weeks PCT)
2. Prop, Tren, Winny, Clen, T3 (14 week cycle + 2-3 weeks PCT)

Cycle "1" would be for more mass building, but cycle "2" would be more for the cutting but also adding a bit more lean weight.

I was told 3 weeks-4 weeks after you've successfully completely PCT you should be ok to do another cycle.
 
The formula I know is:

tO=To for anyone who's not VERY SERIOUS.
 
AMGETR said:
I was told 3 weeks-4 weeks after you've successfully completely PCT you should be ok to do another cycle.
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Whoever told you that is a fucking idiot. Unless you are a pro and have to stay on most of the time, then you would be foolish to follow that advice. Go get a blood test and wait until all your levels have to returned to baseline (assuming you even know them).
 
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DiamondCutCows said:
Its Time on=Time Off (tO=To)
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That theory really is quite out of date. Some compounds are quite brutal to recover from (deca, tren). Some user's (like myself) have reported up till a year later before they are back 100%. There's no way after waiting another 8-10 weeks that your body would be ready to get shut down again...
 
Mr. Black said:
That theory really is quite out of date. Some compounds are quite brutal to recover from (deca, tren). Some user's (like myself) have reported up till a year later before they are back 100%. There's no way after waiting another 8-10 weeks that your body would be ready to get shut down again...
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Absolutely true on CERTAIN compounds for certain people!
 
Mr. Black said:
You ever told you that is a fucking idiot. Unless you are a pro and have to stay on most of the time, then you would be foolish to follow that advice. Go get a blood test and wait until all your levels have to returned to baseline (assuming you even know them).
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listen to this man,he has provided the only correct answer here
 
Ok so in order to know when yoru test levels are back up a 100% I was suppose to get a blod before i started my cycle?
 
Yes. I took my test before, and I was low in the test.Was like 250. After the hcg, I'll take the bloodtest and see if my natural levels went up better than before.
 
Mr. Black -- I love you. Great posts on this thread, and a great fuck-vatar.

Bloodwork is a must. I am kinda wondering how mine is gonna come back after this nandrolone based cycle I am wrapping up soon is done.
 
Excidium28 said:
Ok so in order to know when yoru test levels are back up a 100% I was suppose to get a blod before i started my cycle?
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In a perfect world everyone would know their baseline values. However, if you do not know (as most do not), theres not much you can do other than making sure your levels return somewhere in the "accpetable" range before starting another cycle.
 
AMGETR said:
Yes. I took my test before, and I was low in the test.Was like 250. After the hcg, I'll take the bloodtest and see if my natural levels went up better than before.
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I hate to break it to you but 250 sucks, unless your 90 (how old are you?). If you started your current cycle with a test level that low I would seriously start reading some of DrJMW's recovery threads in the PCT section.
 
psychedout said:
I am kinda wondering how mine is gonna come back after this nandrolone based cycle I am wrapping up soon is done.
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It will most likely be quite low... unless you included dostinex in the mix.
 
Mr. Black said:
I hate to break it to you but 250 sucks, unless your 90 (how old are you?). If you started your current cycle with a test level that low I would seriously start reading some of DrJMW's recovery threads in the PCT section.
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Oh, I know it's a horrible number. That was natural too.

I have my PCT figured already, and it's up to DrJMW's recommendations. I'm doing 500i.u's ED for 2 weeks, and running 20mg nolva ED throughout the entire cycle.
 
AMGETR said:
Oh, I know it's a horrible number. That was natural too.

I have my PCT figured already, and it's up to DrJMW's recommendations. I'm doing 500i.u's ED for 2 weeks, and running 20mg nolva ED throughout the entire cycle.
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Your most likely going to have to run a second PCT after that one's done. Worst case scenario you'r on HRT for life.
 
DiamondCutCows said:
Its Time on=Time Off (tO=To)
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Is Post-cycle therapy considered time on or time off?
In other words, do you only count AAS as time on, or do you count all exogenous hormones and stimulants (including nolva, clomid, HCG, etc.)
 
snagglepuss said:
Is Post-cycle therapy considered time on or time off?
In other words, do you only count AAS as time on, or do you count all exogenous hormones and stimulants (including nolva, clomid, HCG, etc.)
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I say time on, some dont agree...the whole point is RECOVERY and you sure arent recovered if your still taking things to recover ;)

I say a 12wk test cycle is 14-15wks plus 2-3wks of PCT then 16-17wks off for newbs and intermediates :chomp:
 
Time on and time off is a metter of how you interpret it.

This is how i would follow it. Say i just finished an 8 weeker of sust.

4 Weeks before stopping the cycle i would switch to a shorter ester, like Enanthate, then 2 weeks before switch to prop. A week from the last injection i would take off from everything. Week 10 i start PCT, and run it for 2 weeks. Then allow another week for clearance of ALL drugs. There now i'm up to 13 weeks. This means that a 8 weeker cycle like this will make me take 3 to 4 months between cycles. This is how i follow it.

Typical 8 weeker. (example only)
week 1-4 sustanon
week 5-6 Enanthate/cypionate
week 7-8 Propionate
week 9 OFF
week 10 Start PCT
week 11 Continue PCT
week 12 Taper PCT off
Week 13 Allow clearance time for all PCT and related compunds.
Week 14 All done.

This is how i do it. See to me the total time taken was about 14 weeks. So 14-16 weeks would pass between cycles for me. I'm in no rush, there's a whole life time to accomplish goals. This will allow you a good ammount of time to solidify your gains and get to know you body in it's natural mode. Also future cycles will be way more effective.

And the best ebenfit of it all for me is the peace of mind in knowing that i do everything to be healthy, and not abuse my body. This is something i did not start thinking about till i started approaching my late 20's. And this formula lets me juice 4-6 months out of the year. That means i can be "ON" about 50% of the time, it's enough i think.

So in closing a 6 week dball cycle should not be repeated every 6 weeks.
 
Why the f*ck do people still ask this question? Nobody can tell you how your body will react to drugs. Stop guessing at it. Get your bloodwork done:

1. the last 2 weeks of a cycle
2. after pct is done
3. after a number of weeks equal to the length of your cycle has passed.


I guess the good thing is that we know people who ask this aren't doing bloodwork.
 
Dial_tone said:
Why the f*ck do people still ask this question? Nobody can tell you how your body will react to drugs. Stop guessing at it. Get your bloodwork done:

1. the last 2 weeks of a cycle
2. after pct is done
3. after a number of weeks equal to the length of your cycle has passed.


I guess the good thing is that we know people who ask this aren't doing bloodwork.
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I assume from your post that getting your bloodwork done is simply a matter of asking for it. Unforunately, this is not always the case. Many doctors would not agree to authorize blood tests without a legitimate reason, and many patients are reluctant (understandably!) to to confess to AAS use.
 
Aswell, if you're like me, a college student with no medicare in the USA, you have to pay $110usd and wait 8 weeks for each blood work. So I only get it done once after every cycle, or else before a cycle.
 
snagglepuss said:
I assume from your post that getting your bloodwork done is simply a matter of asking for it. Unforunately, this is not always the case. Many doctors would not agree to authorize blood tests without a legitimate reason, and many patients are reluctant (understandably!) to to confess to AAS use.
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You don't need to go to your doctor to get it done. If you can afford to juice you can afford bloodwork.
 
In my area the Rotary Club runs a $25.00 blood test at the hospital twice a year to whoever wants to have their blood tested. Its a full blood test, covers eveything. I'm sure if you look around you will find something similar in your area.
 
Time On = Time Off......

we've been preaching it forever......

when will you kids learn?

DIV

:chomp:
 
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