How long before I go back on the gear?

[Trickie]

I finished an 8 week course of Deca 400mg p/week and Test Cyp 500mg p/week 9 weeks ago....after the juice left my system (ie 2 weeks or so after my last shot) I had the flu quite bad and I lost my libido completely, I had never had it that bad before after finishing a course, however I am working 4 nights a week as a doorman so I was exhausted a lot of the time. Basically, my immune system was totally shot, even clomid did not help (which suprised me actually), and yes, you guessed it, I lost all my gains. This burnt out/flu feeling also happened after my prev course last December but the libido was ok that time.
I just finished taking Tribulus which has helped alot, I'm about to take some Avena Sativa, but my libido is about 80% of what it was, its better but still not quite there yet. My questions are:

1) Should I back off from the juice till my sex drive is back to what it was? (Was thinking of doing an 8 week D-bol/Test course starting October)

2) Any other supplements out there that I could take for improving my libido/immune system?
Would Echinacea be any good?

3) Will my libido EVER get back to what it used to be?

Any advice will be appreciated.

 

[~ThaGame~]

time on equals time off bro

 

[thx9000]

Yes, you should stay away from gear until you have fully recovered. Unfortuantely, since you don't have pre-cycle baseline on your test levels you will never really know what you're trying to recover to. I guess you can use your libido as an indicator, that's better than no indicator at all.

I don't think Echinacea should be used long term. There are some, expensive, herbal formulations that might help with "deep immune" function these include AHCC, Astralagus, etc but proper diet and REST are probably all you need.

Good luck with your libido. Do a search on here there are TONS of posts regarding suppressed libido following a cycle. Nelson Montan's posts come to mind...

 

[DaddyX]

actually it is really up to you. if you get blood work done and all that good stuff and your in good healt, go ahead back on. time on does not always = time off.

 

[RADAR]

I believe you have a good choice using a test & dbol cycle dividing the shot thru the week will keep levels more constant and increase libido,run some proviron along if you wish for hardness & libido.

RADAR

 

[bicepts101]

8 weeks on=8weeks off

 

[tack]

test/dbol not a bad idea if libido is your problem. neither fuck with your sex drive, opposite in most case. why only 8 week cycle of test? I see limiting the dbol to 4-6 weeks, but why not longer with the test?

 

[nuclear1]

When can you afford your next cycle is the question

 

[Trickie]

Tack - I'm confused....if my own natural test level is about 80%, (which I think mine is) surely I should wait until it is 100% before starting another course? I was under the impression that you should wait till your natural test production is back completley.
As for doing Test at 8 weeks, well cost for one thing and I thought 8 weeks is pretty standard. (its actually 10 weeks really isn't it as the Test stays in your system for 2 weeks after your last shot.)

 

[genarr4]

Bud I just went through the same thing for the same reasons. Same drugs same dose same job same sleep problems. I have stuff on the way but I'm going to keep training naturally until I feel great in the gym and everything is back to normal.

In your/and my situation I'd say take a long break. I don't plan on using again till at least November.

 

[cdownie927]

so is it after post therpy, so if I run gear 1-12 and do post cycle until week 16 or 17 then I must wait 17 weeks before next cycle, or can I get away with 12 weeks.

anybody