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swordfish151
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JP_O said:
He's talking about getting your bloodwork done to see where your levels are chief...not to get tested if its in your system
oh and i believe in the rule of thumb - TIME ON = TIME OFF
bigmann245
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swordfish151 said:He's talking about getting your bloodwork done to see where your levels are chief...not to get tested if its in your system
oh and i believe in the rule of thumb - TIME ON = TIME OFF
agreed!!
italian_gladiator
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None of the above.
If you consider the fact that some people cycle for 12 wks straight, then you should take another 12 wks off, so then 3 cycles a year (at the most) is more appropriate, and anymore is insanity in my opinion.
If you consider the fact that some people cycle for 12 wks straight, then you should take another 12 wks off, so then 3 cycles a year (at the most) is more appropriate, and anymore is insanity in my opinion.
italian_gladiator
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Yes. I guess it comes down to how far you're willing to take it with roids.jc1908 said:
Regular blood work should be done after PCT is completed to keep an eye on your numbers including liver values. Different people do different things and some pay the ultimate price.
CENTURION44
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Dial_tone said:
Exactly
Güclü_oglan
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your receptors has a half time of a very few hours so i wouldn't go off for that long just for a couple of hours of workjc1908 said:
the receptor saturation etc is just a mythThe bloodwork is not done only to see your test levels, you need to check your sbhg, lipids, liver values etc etc to see that nothing is wrong (of course fucking up your lipids and hormonebalance is wrong in a way, but i meant something out of the usual
)well fuck it... i'm on year around
monstermmf
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I'm glad this topic came up, My best dude who I've lifted with since High School was asking me tonight how long he should stay off.. He's ran everything to name the least.. since he was 20.. He's getting into the 700lb benching levels weighing at 250.. I asked him what he was doing for PCT.. his response.. nothing, thats more money I can spend on Test.. I gave a minor chuckle and was like damn bro, if you were only a member on elite.. you would get your ass chewed.. and now I have the perfect thread to forward to him..
Me for example.. I started when he did, at 20, the first few cycles I ran without PCT.. stupidly now i know.. But smartened up and began taking nolva and chlomid after some vet advice from the boards.. I have been off for two years since I ended.. Which partly were to getting lazy and becomming a pothead for awhile, and partying too much in college.. 2 years later, in the past 6 months, I've been getting on it again, and for the first time got my bf into the teens. Diet and training only, besides some Levorex and Trex.. Anyways.. I can't stress the importance of getting this in check. I was once into powerlifting rather than looking good.. My diet consisted of McDonalds and pizza, as long as I was benching 550 to 600.. Didn't care where my weight was, just as long as my bench was high. Anyways, now that I'm below percentage, im getting ready to go back home and sauce again.. This time wiser, smarter, with a diet built to a perfect T. I went from 225 and fat to 195 and lean as shit with some hard work.. I can't stress enough how much you can get done with a little hard work and discipline. I am still not satisfied a bit with my bf % and will continue to work for a month or two until I'm ready for some clen and T3.. after that.. test enan, winnie tabs, some more clen and t3 for me.. from now on I'm doing it right.. A lesson to you young ones.. if your not going to do it right, don't do it.. I wish I could take back everything I had done and start over.. But I'm sure my receptors are now going to get me everything I've ever expected out of a cycle.
Me for example.. I started when he did, at 20, the first few cycles I ran without PCT.. stupidly now i know.. But smartened up and began taking nolva and chlomid after some vet advice from the boards.. I have been off for two years since I ended.. Which partly were to getting lazy and becomming a pothead for awhile, and partying too much in college.. 2 years later, in the past 6 months, I've been getting on it again, and for the first time got my bf into the teens. Diet and training only, besides some Levorex and Trex.. Anyways.. I can't stress the importance of getting this in check. I was once into powerlifting rather than looking good.. My diet consisted of McDonalds and pizza, as long as I was benching 550 to 600.. Didn't care where my weight was, just as long as my bench was high. Anyways, now that I'm below percentage, im getting ready to go back home and sauce again.. This time wiser, smarter, with a diet built to a perfect T. I went from 225 and fat to 195 and lean as shit with some hard work.. I can't stress enough how much you can get done with a little hard work and discipline. I am still not satisfied a bit with my bf % and will continue to work for a month or two until I'm ready for some clen and T3.. after that.. test enan, winnie tabs, some more clen and t3 for me.. from now on I'm doing it right.. A lesson to you young ones.. if your not going to do it right, don't do it.. I wish I could take back everything I had done and start over.. But I'm sure my receptors are now going to get me everything I've ever expected out of a cycle.
monsterMMF said:
That's deep! Man, I almost cried after reading your thread. Your story reads like a "rags to riches story". I found myself cheering for you all the way, bro.
I also learned a few things; take anti-estrogens, lift to look good not to look cool, and most of all work hard and with discipline. Thanks Bro.
gymratforlife
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Cycling what is that?JP_O said:
monstermmf
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gymratforlife said:Cycling what is that?
Cycling.. haha what the hell! crying? lost me bro..
How long does it take for ya'll to get over the test crash? I'm in PCT after my first cycle, 500 test E/wk, last injection was February 3rd. I'm not crashing hard, just been feeling a little depressed and unmotivated for the last couple weeks. My PCT was 3000 IU HCG/wk + 20mg nolva/day for 3 weeks, now i'm in the first week of nolva only.
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immortalis
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Terrible poll heh.
Research proper PCT and you will have your answer.
Research proper PCT and you will have your answer.
tiggerizme
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uh what was that story about? I think it was something along the lines of I was fat and could lift heavy weight, now I care what I look like, want to juice again and my friend doesn't use PCT. Was that the condensed version?
Just fucking with you monsterMMF. Tell your friend if he really wanted to get the best gains and keep them from each cycle he would seriously consider the PCT. You got your head on right, don't be subject to what he's doing because he can bench 700lbs. Screw that. Once you get your bod where you need to be he will probably ditch all that weight and come over to our side.
Just fucking with you monsterMMF. Tell your friend if he really wanted to get the best gains and keep them from each cycle he would seriously consider the PCT. You got your head on right, don't be subject to what he's doing because he can bench 700lbs. Screw that. Once you get your bod where you need to be he will probably ditch all that weight and come over to our side.
Swoolen_Puppy
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TIME OFF = TIME ON
Proper pct is a MUST!!!!!!!!
Proper pct is a MUST!!!!!!!!
Destroyer1986*
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about 4-8weeks
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