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How good are QV products?

Tried there Cyp. GReat product, love them Thumbs up.

Just because there are fakes going around doesn't mean the actual product itself is bad.
 
SofaGeorge said:
Once great... but rapidly becoming questionable.

That about sums up my feedback on QV. I've had QV vials that were underfilled, underdosed and hurt like hell going in.
 
At first they where all hyped up now alot of people are giving them negative feedback. I for one have had very good results with thir Ent/Cyp/Eq and will continue to use them. Plus I feel comfortable knowing that they are a parent company of Denkall! :D
 
Used their EQ and prop with excellent results and no pain......always underfilled....My next cycle will consist of BDL products......
 
gilly6993 said:
Used their EQ and prop with excellent results and no pain......always underfilled....My next cycle will consist of BDL products......

yeah always underfilled, don't let no one fool you everyone. underdosed i doubt though...possible. you finish those 3 EQ gilly? :p
 
John G - actually some of their non-fake shit even sucks bro, IMO there enanthate is garbage, prop isnt great, EQ is ok, tren is over priced, underfilled and questionable quality on everything
 
QV contracts out for manufacture. They don't make anything in house. (Nobody does.) They apparently "got smart" and went with a new manufacturer after putting out a great product with their original manufacturer. (Ostensibly because the new manufacturer offered a better rate.) Their products have been going down hill ever since.

A cheaper rate does not = quality.
 
SofaGeorge said:
QV contracts out for manufacture. They don't make anything in house. (Nobody does.) They apparently "got smart" and went with a new manufacturer after putting out a great product with their original manufacturer. (Ostensibly because the new manufacturer offered a better rate.) Their products have been going down hill ever since.

A cheaper rate does not = quality.

If this is true SG then that really sucks. I know for a fact that Denkall and QV increased their prices by 10% what gives?
 
WannaImpress said:


If this is true SG then that really sucks. I know for a fact that Denkall and QV increased their prices by 10% what gives?

There are problems in QV land... maybe serious problems. I expect there to be a high chance QV will go the way of TTykko shortly.
 
SofaGeorge said:


There are problems in QV land... maybe serious problems. I expect there to be a high chance QV will go the way of TTykko shortly.

Can you elaborate on this or is that top secret? :D

Might have to start trying the new Syd./Jurox lineup!
 
WannaImpress said:


Can you elaborate on this or is that top secret? :D


Anything I post would be speculation... and would rapidly be repeated and changed... and create truely idiotic rumors.

Avoid Syd like the plague... by the way.
 
SofaGeorge said:


Anything I post would be speculation... and would rapidly be repeated and changed... and create truely idiotic rumors.

Avoid Syd like the plague... by the way.

Damn SG, your just giving me bad news tonight! :D Please tell me more about Syd. if you don't mind.
 
THE_BIG_FED said:


yeah always underfilled, don't let no one fool you everyone. underdosed i doubt though...possible. you finish those 3 EQ gilly? :p



:D....Holy Shit......I had no idea this was you!....yeah, their gone!
 
gilly6993 said:




:D....Holy Shit......I had no idea this was you!....yeah, their gone!

i tricked you again. :FRlol: you big dummy. :p also your a greedy EQ mofo....i still got one vial to go out of three.....but you had a headstart on me. :D
 
I think QV SUCKS...I have gone through prolly 100's of vials (combined) of DECA 300, Deca 200, EQ 200, T prop, T Enanthate,
T Cypionate...and got shit.
Now how do I know? I was 6-8 weeks into a heavy loaded QV cycle of what I thought was a gram of TP, 2 grams of T Cyp and a gram of Enanthate with 600 mgs of DECA and 600 mgs of EQ and was getting nada...switched to Mexipharm by chance at about 1/4 th the doses of QV and put on 15 lbs in 4 weeks.

I don't know whteher to be happy as my time on QV was really off or clean or that I wasted a few grand.

Now I know why my blood work was sooo great on QV..they are inert.:idea: :arrow: :die: :freak: :mad:
 
jasonstrong said:
I think QV SUCKS...I have gone through prolly 100's of vials (combined) of DECA 300, Deca 200, EQ 200, T prop, T Enanthate,
T Cypionate...and got shit.
Now how do I know? I was 6-8 weeks into a heavy loaded QV cycle of what I thought was a gram of TP, 2 grams of T Cyp and a gram of Enanthate with 600 mgs of DECA and 600 mgs of EQ and was getting nada...switched to Mexipharm by chance at about 1/4 th the doses of QV and put on 15 lbs in 4 weeks.

I don't know whteher to be happy as my time on QV was really off or clean or that I wasted a few grand.

Now I know why my blood work was sooo great on QV..they are inert.:idea: :arrow: :die: :freak: :mad:

damn that is a lot of useless pokes, man I'm sorry....lol
 
Yeah I just finished nearly two bottles of qv eq and getting ok results at 600 per week. Definitely a couple of shots underdosed. I will be going with BDL in about a week.
 
I had pretty good luck with all of the batches i've used...Never heard of any complaints on the Deca...
 
And when you guys say its bunk or didn't get any results...do you mean you just didn't get the results "YOU" were looking for , or did the test still cause the general effects any testosterone would?....

Kinda like bad exctasy, when you feel your about to roll and it starts to hit you but you don't really roll at all?
 
I am having ok results with QV EQ and Enenth 250, on week 5, and up about 16lbs...

IF QV sucks then why woudl they post all of there lab assays on the website for each individual batch? I know it is not regulated by the FDA as I work closely with the FDA but I don't think they are able to LIe about Lab Assays on the sight for batches...
My guy gets directly from the QV distributor so I know none of it is fake either...


Little hint to people who don't know...EQ esters are EQ esters just because QV or organon makes the product does not mean there is anything different...I seriously think alot of people think that Vet gear and Human gear are made of different stuff well NOTICE TO ALL it is all the same, granted some companies may underfill( I do agree that QV underfills) or there products may not be as stable or clean as FDA regulated products but it is all the same...So if you are not getting results you simply got ripped off, and are shooting fake shit.
 
NJextreme said:
I am having ok results with QV EQ and Enenth 250, on week 5, and up about 16lbs...

IF QV sucks then why woudl they post all of there lab assays on the website for each individual batch? I know it is not regulated by the FDA as I work closely with the FDA but I don't think they are able to LIe about Lab Assays on the sight for batches...
My guy gets directly from the QV distributor so I know none of it is fake either...


Little hint to people who don't know...EQ esters are EQ esters just because QV or organon makes the product does not mean there is anything different...I seriously think alot of people think that Vet gear and Human gear are made of different stuff well NOTICE TO ALL it is all the same, granted some companies may underfill( I do agree that QV underfills) or there products may not be as stable or clean as FDA regulated products but it is all the same...So if you are not getting results you simply got ripped off, and are shooting fake shit.

True. But I respond differently to different types of var and I know they were all legit. Anyone who does as knows that different brands of legit shit works differently with their body. For instance we may both get legit TT EQ and QV EQ or Denkal for that matter. Each person will respond differently to the different brands. You just have to try and see what works best for you.
 
well, its hit or miss it seems, most like the decas, most say the enanthates hurt, i tried the equipoise and it sucked ass, i liked the prop, and i've only seen the winny, so its hard to say
 
I 100% disagree, it is all the same thing. The only thing that can change from co. to co. (given it is all legit) is the dosage, or sterility.

Not tring to flame, just my opinion.
 
SofaGeorge said:
I never thought I'd see the day when IP got more praise than QV. :)

yeah, the EF boys have found a new whipping boy again. its QV. lol. always got to be somebody for EF guys to bash! wouldn't be the same. its obvious that its just for the hell of it, since its all of a sudden "QV sucks". lol, too funny with this board.
 
THE_BIG_FED said:


yeah, the EF boys have found a new whipping boy again. its QV. lol. always got to be somebody for EF guys to bash! wouldn't be the same. its obvious that its just for the hell of it, since its all of a sudden "QV sucks". lol, too funny with this board.

There are plenty of proponets of QV voicing their opinions... and yes IP gets bashed a lot- but i wouldn't think there'd be many people on any boards that would say it isn't at least somewhat warranted.
 
Lift Chief said:


There are plenty of proponets of QV voicing their opinions... and yes IP gets bashed a lot- but i wouldn't think there'd be many people on any boards that would say it isn't at least somewhat warranted.

its just funny there is a complaint here and there about underfilling, and this and that, about QV...then the shit hits the fan one day (today) and QV is all for shit. makes me laugh. at least IP deserves it. he only has a few worthwhile products. QV has always tested out as at or right around label claim, and i will be the first to admit they underfill. but what the hell do you want for vet gear? perfection? lol. i personally don't use vet gear except EQ (always QV).....only human grade stuff. but this seems funny all the complaints all of a sudden out of the woodwork.
 
hey FED you and I are on the same page....

I am sure you had no problems with QV EQ right?

BTW for nebies...YOU WILL NOT GAIN THE SAME OFF OF EVERY CYCLE LIKE WHEN YOU DID YOUR FIRST CYCLE AND CONVERTED FROM A STEROID VIRGIN TO A STEROID REGULAR!

I hate when people say well the first time I used it it was the bomb and I gained 20 lbs now I took it an only gained 10-15lbs it is shit and I am not using it anymore....C'mon and get a grip.

Your right and I am not bashing Elite by any means but like I said people here tend to jump on the band wagon (LIKE TODAY) and just start bashing products and Labs...Lets just all agree that we are here to help one another out with insight on AAS use Training and dieting.
 
NJextreme said:
hey FED you and I are on the same page....

I am sure you had no problems with QV EQ right?

BTW for nebies...YOU WILL NOT GAIN THE SAME OFF OF EVERY CYCLE LIKE WHEN YOU DID YOUR FIRST CYCLE AND CONVERTED FROM A STEROID VIRGIN TO A STEROID REGULAR!

I hate when people say well the first time I used it it was the bomb and I gained 20 lbs now I took it an only gained 10-15lbs it is shit and I am not using it anymore....C'mon and get a grip.

Your right and I am not bashing Elite by any means but like I said people here tend to jump on the band wagon (LIKE TODAY) and just start bashing products and Labs...Lets just all agree that we are here to help one another out with insight on AAS use Training and dieting.

yeah the EQ was good stuff. underfilled as i always complain about....but good. and dont' remind me of the not gaining like the first cycle....its never been the same since then. :D NOW EVERYONE OFF THE BANDWAGON!!! thump! thump! thump! <----people falling off the bandwagon. :D
 
NJextreme said:
I will agree my QV Eq's were only 8-9ml's.


Fuck em let them stay on the bandwagon, LOL

:FRlol: more EQ for us! lol. these last few were actually 9.5ml and 9.3ml i was shocked at the 9.5, almost fell off the chair. :D
 
DRRman said:
screw you big fed, QV EQ sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL......j/k

this guy is an asshole, make sure to disregard all he says. :mommakin:
 
What about quality and grade of the raw materials used.

There's a large difference in Testosterone Grade BP93 and Test grade USP24

Also about half the price.
 
Andy you mad fucking scientist speak english for christ sakes. I'm assuming usp24 is better??
 
I am wrapping up a 10wk QV stint. TE was relatively painless, not underfilled, EQ was not underfilled, not much in the way of EQ hunger, but vascularity is above and beyond what I am used to for my bodyfat levels, TP so far not underfilled. I have no complaints, as I am getting the expected results. Ran test at 350mgs/wk, EQ 400mgs/wk.

If they are really going down it sucks, because the batches I got were right on. I was hoping to use them on a regular basis.
 
jubei said:
Andy you mad fucking scientist speak english for christ sakes. I'm assuming usp24 is better??

YES!!!

People think raw materials are all the same yet nobody takes into account the QUALITY!

It's funny, they know the difference between whey concentrate and whey isolate yet they don't consider different grades in AS.
 
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