How Experienced before Tren?

[Power36]

Just curious how experienced folks need to be before trying Tren.....I doubt Ill use it because Im such a newbie, about a year on HRT (GH/T/Deca for periods low dose), with a blast of Primo 400mg week and low dose Var for a spell....thinking next year of what Id want to do...I loved the Primo, but its so frigging expensive! And Id like to bump it up over 400mg if I do it again which will make it even more pricey.....Ive always been a big guy, so putting on muscle isnt an issue, and I do not want to get bigger just body recomp and stay strong.....everyone on here and friends in person rave about Tren ripping off bodyfat and strength gains.....and its so much cheaper than Primo, part of it seems tempting to save hundreds of dollars and give it a shot at a low dose?

Im probably 14% BF right now but will be dunk tanked again soon....could be a little lower....but I thought of Masteron but folks say you need to be under 8%....so yea Primo and Var again would be ideal for me to stay lean, strong, and not get gigantic.....but the price of both makes me wonder what alternative there would be to try...........just straight up upping T dose to 500-600mg? Or would that risk bloat and putting on tons of size?

The little things I have done I do like, GH is great, I could up that dose but $$, Primo and Var sweet but $$$..........Tren seems tempting bang for buck, but I also do not want to jump ahead of the game as I got a lot of life left in me and no rush. Masteron Im not lean enough...Winny Id be worried about soft tissue injuries as I already have a ton and hear the stories about how that locks folks up or impedes soft tissue healing and can seem like it lends to soft tissue injuries...Halo would be good for strength I guess but a harsh oral so they say that should be short term...Tbol could be a winner for a short period...

Guess its late on Halloween night and Im just fantasizing about tricks and treats for myself in the next year and wondering some of your all opinions on more bang for the buck cycles to blast while on HRT that keep strength up, help body comp, but wont be bloating me so my doctors or friends think something is up and get all investigative!

Oh something that got me curious about this was the Andomix from Genezea...low dose Mast, T-Prop, and Tren.....would there be any benefit to doing low doses of that in addition to regular HRT and seeing some nice results? But not being as lean as is suggested for Mast, nor as experienced as suggested for Tren! Its just way cheaper than Primo, Var, and upping GH!

 

[NeedMore]

Take this no offense but I am not sure where you're getting all your information from but stopping getting it from there.
You seem confused and all over the place.
Tren will not shred fat and get your ripped; diet, cardio do this.
Tren will only aid and assit in the results making the approach more comfortable and less
stressful to achieve.

You say you dont want to get any bigger...so why even bother increasing the test and other drugs?

Feel free to PM me

 

[Power36]

Thanks I understand the diet and training piece for sure...sorry to make it sound as if taking a drug would do all the magic or something as I am not under that impression at all, and I train my nuts off and have been for over 20 years very seriously, competing at times, other times traiing those who compete and still training with them as I was competiting...

Ill admit its probably because im an AAS virgin and stuck on HRT, that I am excited to experiment with AAS blasts. Stayed clean my entire life with awesome results, had serious health issues and surgeries that changed my life, thankfully Im back on track training frequently and hard again. I used to have to work to get heavy (well I mean over 230), I mean 6k calories a day around the clock, shakes between meals and middle of night, etc....for me to be 245....now Im 245 even if I am not trying to stay there haha, and not as lean as I was prior to medical issues despite doing tons of interval training and limited carbs....maybe its age, maybe its residual changes in my body chemistry and hormones from the health issues...but Id like to be at my natural BF 10% again. So if that means dropping some bodyweight overall while cutting calories, and there are AAS that can help with this, which Primo and Var seemed good choices, Id like to do it...but Primo cost an arm and a leg...Tren seemed like from the folklore on some of the forums, and from personal stories from old friends who are experienced in the AAS world,. that it can help lean you out if your doing all the other stuff right.

So my goal is to get leaner, whether its staying the same size or dropping weight, I can still drop to 230 and be a big dude and throw up good numbers in the weightroom. 220-235 is my natural/usual weight and only at times I ate like it was a full time job did I get to 245. So 230-245 I dont care just want to be 10% BFor less....and please for those who may jump in talking about not training hard etc, trust me I know how to train and eat clean. Been doing for nearly 23 years....whatever the toll the medical issues took on me, Im not leaning out like I used to. Dont think my thyroid and cortisol issues are dialed in yet with the doc so maybe thats part ot if. All this "adrenal fatigue" stuff...

 

[thelocal]

i have to disagree..tren will shed that body fat and get u ripped..but of coruse results are always better when u have clean clean diet and hardcore carido

 

[Power36]

Is there a benefit to low dose Tren assisting that, or we talking full blown dosages? And if Im still a virgin, ie HRT for a year and one blast under my belt of Primo/Var, am I still too wet behind the ears to screw with Tren? Just seems so much cheaper than primo/var!

 

[C.K.]

That's rediculous mast does its job no matter what bf% just like everything else...

 

[thelocal]

^^6 true..low does like..50-75 mg of tren every other day with 400mgs of mast..youll be harder then ever

 

[ALIN]

^^6 true..low does like..50-75 mg of tren every other day with 400mgs of mast..youll be harder then ever

Ive even worked with some guys recently running TREN with success at lower dosages such as 37.5mg per day or even EOD.

 

[Power36]

mmmmmm.....interesting....I may have to ponder this as the wish list for a New Years blast late spring....I forget what dose the Andromix from Genezea is, think its Test Prop 50mg/Mast 50mg/Tren A 50mg....

At the lower dose Tren will auxillary stuff be needed to combat sides?

Sounds tempting

 

[thelocal]

u should have some on hand just in case,tren is a nandrolone and therefor gyno is always a possibility