How does this look? First cycle.

[gonelifting]

There ARE benefits to estrogen, its the excessive amounts that cause you problems. Take once symptoms are noticed and quit once they subside (20mg/ed).

Run a search there is a lot of good info here, much more then I could explain in a few sentences.

OK so the Nolva I will do 20mg/ed when I first notice it, Until it subsides. Thanks. I just have a hard time noticing things that minute.

I HAVE been reading a lot thousands of posts and writing down pages of notes. Everything is still very personal though because of differing opinions. Still trying...

 

[rrwwdd]

Usually you get an itchy feeling in the nipple area long before the symptoms appear, start then. Stop once the feeling has been gone for at least 5 days.

 

[Singleton]

I think you will notice tits.

Depends on the person.

 

[jerkbox]

you could even throw some proviron in, to help the test.

wouldn't proviron and finasteride together be contradictory?


I would say maybe a small dose of liquidex, and use the nolva if any gyno symptoms develop, and use it post cycle...



can't believe gonelifting is coming to the dark side...hehehehe

 

[gonelifting]

wouldn't proviron and finasteride together be contradictory?


I would say maybe a small dose of liquidex, and use the nolva if any gyno symptoms develop, and use it post cycle...



can't believe gonelifting is coming to the dark side...hehehehe

Use Nolva Post Cycle Even though I`m preparing to use Clomid?

Yes I`m coming to the "darkside" Watch out you young fuckers. lol

As soon as I figure this stuff out.

 

[jerkbox]

Use Nolva Post Cycle Even though I`m preparing to use Clomid?

Yes I`m coming to the "darkside" Watch out you young fuckers. lol

As soon as I figure this stuff out.

yeah man...estogen rebound....a lot of guys get gyno post cycle.

 

[gonelifting]

yeah man...estogen rebound....a lot of guys get gyno post cycle.

Thanks, I Will have the stuff with my order. and I have time till end of cycle to learn more about PCT. (12 weeks)

 

[JuicePimp]

I would really consider an anti-aromatase such as aromasin to run during the cycle too, to keep estrogen levels low, which makes it less likely you will need the Nolva.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

I also have a theory, but it may not be what you want to hear. I would say to start off you dont need 12 week cycle.
I would say you might be better off @ 500mgEW for 8-10 wks. You might be better served to add var vs dbol. Also I really like Aromasin vs liquidex or whatever. you should plan on Hcg pCt with the nolva.

My suggestion looks like this bro:

• Wks1-8 500mg enan (2 shots per week)
• Var 3-8 40mg ED
• HCG wk9 500iuED for 6 days
• Aromasin 1/2 tab ED (best antiE - best for Chlo levels too)
• Nolva 20mgED for PCT after HCg treatment

I realize 8 weeks may seem short, feel free to make it 10 or 12, I am only making a suggestion. 8 weeks should give you time to see how the test will treat your body. Also starting the Var in the 3rd week gives you 6 wks of var, but 2 weeks on just test to take note of any sides, BP, etc...It is easier to recover your natty test off a short cycle than it is a longer cycle. I would hate to see you make huge gains and crash after wk 13. So the shorter plan will give good results, more keepable results IMO. then take 6-8 weeks off and make another run. Also with bigger guys you mind find the Var helps lean out the BF% and help with keepable gains not just excessive water.

sorry for the long post, you are a good bro and I wanted to explain my perspective on your plan. Good Luck.

Peace

 

[genarr3]

Use Nolva Post Cycle Even though I`m preparing to use Clomid?

Yes I`m coming to the "darkside" Watch out you young fuckers. lol

As soon as I figure this stuff out.

You can use either Clomid or Nolvadex, they're both essentially the same thing.

Cycle looks good.