How does insulin actually build muscle?

[zmyj88]

Ahh, I see now. Your body doesn't *need to burn calories specifically, they're just what it prefers. Push comes to shove, it will burn sugars and fats, but that's a last resort because of how much energy it takes to do so. At that point, it doesn't give a shit about building muscle, its just using them to keep you alive. Needless to say, not a spot you wanna be in

 

[littleguy289]

I really had no intentions on trying it, just made me wonder. Like how do diabetics diet to lose fat? If what we know is true about insulin blocking fat loss, would they need to take a shot of short acting like humalog right with their last meal and then fast for awhile with no insulin?

 

[zmyj88]

Its a pain in the ass, my ex was a diabetic, and wanted to burn fat. Easy, I said, no problem. Nahhhhh, their diet has to be 100% on point, and there's other drugs for them out there, metformin, all those diabetes management Ines in the commercials.
They can do it, gotta test the blood sugar all the time and count calories fats, protein, everything, it sucks. I just eat what I want and hit the gym, they can't do that

 

[bigorse]

Its a pain in the ass, my ex was a diabetic, and wanted to burn fat. Easy, I said, no problem. Nahhhhh, their diet has to be 100% on point, and there's other drugs for them out there, metformin, all those diabetes management Ines in the commercials.
They can do it, gotta test the blood sugar all the time and count calories fats, protein, everything, it sucks. I just eat what I want and hit the gym, they can't do that

Met is great for weight loss and big cheats fyi, i love it. Just gives you the shits sometimes which can be good for getting rid of distention after a big cheat. Need to buy some more, dirt cheap too

 

[Loganwolf]

How insulin is responsible for muscle growth and the storage of muscle glycogen? To build muscle, your body must synthesize more protein than it catabolizes. Insulin stimulates protein synthesis. briefly something like that

 

[zmyj88]

Haha thanks Logan, cleared that up for us

 

[stevesmi]

to put it in english

type 1 diabetics do not produce insulin as pancreas fails to produce it

type 2 diabetics produce insulin, but their lifestyle has made it to the point where their bodies do not produce enough of it to drop their blood sugar low.

for a normal person when you eat something sugary your body produces insulin to drop your blood sugar back down. if you are very insulin resistant you can get much more of a roller coaster then someone who is sensitive.

as far as insulin being anabolic, yes it is.. but just cause that is the case doesn't mean if you inject it then you will magically grow muscle like popeye. if that was the case then type 1 diabetics who need to inject insulin would be huge from it.

also the big 300 pound bodybuilders you see are using insulin all day to take full advantage of their meals. it helps them eat big meals and shuttle in all that goodness into their muscles. they also will take metformin and other fat blocking drugs too to counteract fat gain.. plus a lot of stims and such to speed up metabolism.. T3 is something they abuse as well ...

bottom line is when you use insulin before a meal your body goes into storage mode, hence that is how insulin helps you build mass. without insulin these huge dudes would not be able to be 300 pounds and hold that much muscle.. it is a necessity at the mr Olympia level to use both insulin and HGH for this reason

I do not understand why you wrote insulin blocks fat storage. this is just not true. I know of plenty of dudes who ran insulin and put on 20 pounds of fat really fast. you really need to know what you are doing with this stuff or it can really be counter productive.. and yes there are plenty of guys who have hurt themselves taking insulin

for the average gym rat you just don't need to mess with it at all.

 

[bigorse]

to put it in english

type 1 diabetics do not produce insulin as pancreas fails to produce it

type 2 diabetics produce insulin, but their lifestyle has made it to the point where their bodies do not produce enough of it to drop their blood sugar low.

for a normal person when you eat something sugary your body produces insulin to drop your blood sugar back down. if you are very insulin resistant you can get much more of a roller coaster then someone who is sensitive.

as far as insulin being anabolic, yes it is.. but just cause that is the case doesn't mean if you inject it then you will magically grow muscle like popeye. if that was the case then type 1 diabetics who need to inject insulin would be huge from it.

also the big 300 pound bodybuilders you see are using insulin all day to take full advantage of their meals. it helps them eat big meals and shuttle in all that goodness into their muscles. they also will take metformin and other fat blocking drugs too to counteract fat gain.. plus a lot of stims and such to speed up metabolism.. T3 is something they abuse as well ...

bottom line is when you use insulin before a meal your body goes into storage mode, hence that is how insulin helps you build mass. without insulin these huge dudes would not be able to be 300 pounds and hold that much muscle.. it is a necessity at the mr Olympia level to use both insulin and HGH for this reason

I do not understand why you wrote insulin blocks fat storage. this is just not true. I know of plenty of dudes who ran insulin and put on 20 pounds of fat really fast. you really need to know what you are doing with this stuff or it can really be counter productive.. and yes there are plenty of guys who have hurt themselves taking insulin

for the average gym rat you just don't need to mess with it at all.

Great post, very informative. Sums up both the pros and cons of insulin use and who should be using it.

 

[stevesmi]

Great post, very informative. Sums up both the pros and cons of insulin use and who should be using it.

thanks.. there is a lot more to it then I wrote and I could write a book on it.. most diabetics have no clue about why or how they got diabetics.. most doctors don't give a rats ass about educating people either. a shame cause type 2 diabetics can be avoided and reversed though lifestyle improvements, but doctors do not suggest this.

and as people age their insulin sensitivities will change.. to be able to excel at bodybuilding you must figure out your insulin sensitivity to resistance scale. the tricky thing is on steroids it will change (steroids like tren will increase insulin resistance, hence why people need carbs on it), as you age it changes, as you gain and lose mass it changes. its a constant war.

 

[bigorse]

thanks.. there is a lot more to it then I wrote and I could write a book on it.. most diabetics have no clue about why or how they got diabetics.. most doctors don't give a rats ass about educating people either. a shame cause type 2 diabetics can be avoided and reversed though lifestyle improvements, but doctors do not suggest this.

and as people age their insulin sensitivities will change.. to be able to excel at bodybuilding you must figure out your insulin sensitivity to resistance scale. the tricky thing is on steroids it will change (steroids like tren will increase insulin resistance, hence why people need carbs on it), as you age it changes, as you gain and lose mass it changes. its a constant war.

Agreed on changing of lifestyle factors to treat all most all case's of type 2 diabetes with little to no needed use of insulin or biguanides like metformin.
Fasted blood glucose and blood insulin levels are 2 blood tests that are always part of my staple bloods as well as implementing short keto diets during off season to maintain insulin sensitivity.