***how Do The Pros Do It?***

[ultragainz]

they take so much on the live a lot of anadrol d-bol hlao and so on why dont there liver get messed up fast like in 2 years?i know that they have docs helping them and have great stuff for the liver but that cant help them keep taking a lot on there liver for years.....

and if you tkae d-bol for many weeks if you tkae 1 week off in the weeks well that help your liver values get back to normal? its not true i think right?

 

[ultragainz]

ultrabump this way to the top

 

[BONZ^]

From what I know liver can begin to function abnormally years after its been exposed to large and constant amounts of alcohol, most types of recreational drugs, AS and other toxins. It might take a very long time. For example I knew a guy who died of liver cancer in his 50's, the doctors said it was due to alcohol abuse while in his 20's and 30's!

 

[ultragainz]

people that use a lot go to docs a lot too and take good stuff for the liver i think?well most do and i have heard that some people messed up there liver after 2 years.....and they were taking normal amount too....

 

[BONZ^]

Actually there's not too many things you can do to cure liver problems. I had jaundice when I was 12, had to spend 2 weeks in a hospital (it was one of the top hospitals in the country). My medication consistend of the following: very strict diet (nothing fat, fried, spicy or salty), drinking water all day (the more the better) and a bottle of this special mineral water (its only made in Southern Russia, you can buy it in Toronto and New York, probably LA too). That was it! No drugs, no injections, nothing..

 

[bissenmir]

I think pros are giant science experiments. Plus most of them probably get american pharm grades because most have docs that support BB. But at the extreme size we see(and even bigger in future) they will start drop-n-like flys. Wait a few years...

 

[METHYL MIKE]

To be honest, I think the new size of todays pros are a result of many things. First off is advances in training and recuperation strategies. Second is diet improvement. Third is the fairly new usage of Igf-1, insulin, and growth hormone. Now, of course the gear has changed to! Im sure these guys have specialists who plan their cycles TO A TEE!! I mean, they plan out every milligram of every day! Also, it is possible to gain year round, on the proper diet and with the right year-long cycles. I doubt most big pros spend more than six or seven weeks a year off cycle-no bridge or anything. But im sure people help them. As far as their livers are concerned, I think they mix and match liver enhancers-anadrol deplets the liver of gluthionine, for example, so it would make sense to take that after a drol cycle-etc etc.. I havent talked to a pro about it yet, but im sure they have some cool secrets!

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

Methyl Mike brought up some good points. I read an article (I'll try to locate it) that discussed this issue and the author stated that the main bulking AS options have been around for a while (Test, Dbol, Anadrol, Deca), but the primary difference today which attributes for the size disparities, is the liberal use of HGH and insulin. The possibility of irreversible sides and permanent damage associated with using those 2 says volumes about what todays' pro BB is willing to risk to be competitive. Never mind liver damage, it regenerates, and when it quits doing that, you can alwways get another one...

 

[GLP]

I have read to that if you are taking orals your body gets use to them after 3 weeks and to take 1 week off and go back to them.
I guess it confuses the liver. Too bad havent had a chance to try it

 

[gtaman]

I believe that would be the Weider Liver Confusion Principle(TM).

 

[HeavyDutyGuy]

Mike pretty much has it- except for the training and recuupertion advances- when you see Charles Glass having some of his trainees doing 40 lbs leg curls, set after set, it's pretty much a joke.

 

[MadCow1]

True - some of the worst lifters are the pro BBers. They know the least about training but have several things in common:

Lots of Testosterone Receptors
High Tollerance for Anabolics
No genuine concern for their long term health (substitute small inefficient brain)

 

[Dorian]

Sure they take everything there is to take. They still have to work hard though. They have to eat right and stuff. It's a weird way to make a living.

Do you guys think the pro's of today are all gonna just start pegging all over the place sometime? I think we may see something like that one day.

 

[The Iron Game]

Alot of people say the advancement in steroids (not including igf-1, gh and slin). If anything steroids have fallen in numbers). Para, Masteron etc.