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How do I stack tren acetate with test.Enanthate?

snakeryu

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This will be my second cycle and will maybe be my last. How should I run this?
my pct would be Nolvadex and Clomid or would Nolvadex only be fine? The goal is for both mass and cutting purposes.
 
snakeryu said:
This will be my second cycle and will maybe be my last. How should I run this?
my pct would be Nolvadex and Clomid or would Nolvadex only be fine? The goal is for both mass and cutting purposes.



How do you want to run it? Post up exactly what your plan is and let everyone fine tune it.
 
snakeryu said:
This will be my second cycle and will maybe be my last. How should I run this?
my pct would be Nolvadex and Clomid or would Nolvadex only be fine? The goal is for both mass and cutting purposes.


something like this

1-10 test e 500mgs
1-6 or 8 depending on how u can handle tren , 50mgs ed

keep dostinex and ai on hand just in case, tren is also not for a second cycle, but up to u
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
something like this

1-10 test e 500mgs
1-6 or 8 depending on how u can handle tren , 50mgs ed

keep dostinex and ai on hand just in case, tren is also not for a second cycle, but up to u

+1
Dont go over 6-8 with the tren, inject ED to keep sides to a minimal....get HCG for your PCT, drop the nolvadex and use an AI like letro or aromasin
 
test 500mg a week 1-5
tren 150mg week 5-7
then week 8 i would boost the tren to 300 a week just to finish it off.
75mg EOD for tren, I figure if I run it EOD it will be much safer. Do you all think i should run test longer for 10 weeks?

stats 165 age 23 5'7
 
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Rage-Of-Sparta said:
at 165lbs all you need to be doing is EATING and training heavy!!! Food is the most anabolic thing you can put in your body. dnt buy any gear and use that money for food

+1
For real dude at that height you should be eating probably 4,000 calories a day spaced between 6 and 8 meals....put some size on
 
I know what you mean but its just my height that kills it.My body is like telling me to fuck off saying there's no need to put any muscle weight for my height and eating like 4,000 calorie just gets me really fat did it a couple of times before and it didn't help. Took me awhile to lose all that bf%, I didn't gain any muscle. I would eat like that again when I'm on the gear. Its sucks i wish I was alittle taller but my gene's and lifting at a early age which some people say is the problem.
 
snakeryu said:
I know what you mean but its just my height that kills it.My body is like telling me to fuck off saying there's no need to put any muscle weight for my height and eating like 4,000 calorie just gets me really fat did it a couple of times before and it didn't help. Took me awhile to lose all that bf%, I didn't gain any muscle. I would eat like that again when I'm on the gear. Its sucks i wish I was alittle taller but my gene's and lifting at a early age which some people say is the problem.

You need to eat high amount of CLEAN cals...post up your diet, this shit should be in check before you hit something serious like tren.
 
I'm now thinking Tren is not the best idea. Is tren really that bad to handle? I've done research on it but do not know the experience of it. I'm thinking just stacking test with anavar - oxandro tablets instead, 50mg ED. Anybody else agree? I would then run test for 10 weeks. Should I stick with the PCT I stated in the beginning of my post or change it?
 
snakeryu said:
I'm now thinking Tren is not the best idea. Is tren really that bad to handle? I've done research on it but do not know the experience of it. I'm thinking just stacking test with anavar - oxandro tablets instead, 50mg ED. Anybody else agree? I would then run test for 10 weeks. Should I stick with the PCT I stated in the beginning of my post or change it?

Test E 1-10 500mg/ew
Anavar 4-10 40-60mg/ed
HCG week 4-12 250iu x twice a week

PCT
12-16
Dermacrine/unleashed/post cycle
arimidex .5mg ED
 
Rage-Of-Sparta said:
second cycle and your already gonna do tren? stats?
+1 u should have 4-5 cycles under your belt before considering tren imo.. it can be a nasty compound
 
Test E 1-10 500mg/ew
Anavar 4-10 40-60mg/ed
HCG week 4-12 250iu x twice a week

PCT
12-16
Dermacrine/unleashed/post cycle
arimidex .5mg ED
I will being doing enacer420nj recommendation. Thanx for all your opinions and help.
 
what's the deal with everyone on EF wanting to incorporate tren into their cycles?
 
snakeryu said:
This will be my second cycle and will maybe be my last. How should I run this?
my pct would be Nolvadex and Clomid or would Nolvadex only be fine? The goal is for both mass and cutting purposes.

i'm gonna treat this like it was me who wanted to run tren and test

first of all, forget nolva. that will make your tren induced gyno worse.

get letro and dostinex.

k good.

now, run test e for 2 weeks before you pin tren ace, let the test build up first

example WK 1-10 300mg or whatever of test E
WK 3-10 37.5mg or whatever the fuck you want of tren ace ED or EOD whatever

aromasin on hand to run DURING your cycle, letro/dos if gyno comes out of nowhere

if you do HCG do it 500iu twice per week starting at week 6

it will increase estrogen, so take 10mg of aromasin with it, and possible .5mg of dostinex as well

i've never used tren but that is how i would plan and run it.
 
Sounds like you need to put on some mass try:

1-12 Test 500 mgs ew
1-10 Deca 400 mgs ew
1-4 DBol 30 mgs ed

This cycle is known for putting on mass. I personally gained 20 pounds of solid muscle on this cycle.

Eat clean and eat alot, mass gaining protein shakes work well.

Make sure to have anti e's and pct set up before you start.
 
I don't know if I should post this here but don't know where else. http://img239.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=12645_IMG_0423_122_457lo.jpg
http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=12641_IMG_0425_122_1162lo.jpg
These images are before I ever did my first cycle. As you can see I'm a hairy bastered to begin with lol and I had alittle bf% to get rid because I thought eating more calories would help obtain more muscle mass and get stronger but all it did was just gotten me fat. So as you can see I believe I reach my limits and knew I needed to use aas. My strength completely stopped going up and always stood the same way.
 
snakeryu said:
I don't know if I should post this here but don't know where else. http://img239.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=12645_IMG_0423_122_457lo.jpg
http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=12641_IMG_0425_122_1162lo.jpg
These images are before I ever did my first cycle. As you can see I'm a hairy bastered to begin with lol and I had alittle bf% to get rid because I thought eating more calories would help obtain more muscle mass and get stronger but all it did was just gotten me fat. So as you can see I believe I reach my limits and knew I needed to use aas. My strength completely stopped going up and always stood the same way.
You have to eat a lot of clean food not junk food.

Just eat 3 normal meals a day and add weight gaining shakes between meals and before and after workouts.

Meal 1- 6 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, bowl of oatmeal of cold cereal
Meal 2 800calorie shake
Meal 3 Chicken, rice and green beans
Meal 4 800calorie shake
Work-out
Meal 5 800 calorie shake
Meal 6 Dinner Steak, sweet potato, vegtable(brocolli is very good)
Meal 7 1 hour befoer bed another shake with casien protien

Eat ever 2.5 hours of the day if you are hungry or not. You should not gain too much fat if your training is hardcore.

Start out with leaner protien for meals 2,4 and 5 and every week start adding one 800 calorie shake in your meal. The goal is to increase your calorie intake by ruffly 500calories a week untill you are doing the meal plan above.
This will help you stay leaner.

Stick to this and you will definintly gain mass. I would do this while cycling the cycle I put in this thread.
 
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