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How do I network 2 computers?

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Ok, I have one computer that is for my work hooked into the router/dsl.

(ok, forget that one, I just mentioned it in case)


Now I have two other computers on wireless cards that access the same router and dsl line.

I want to sit at Computer #1 and access files on Computer #2.

Can I? Without using something like PCAnywhere?
 
just make sure file sharing is enabled in windows... then to make things easier, put them in the same workgroup... the default is probably WORKGROUP or MSHOME. You should just be able to select the folder you want on the host computer and right click... then go to sharing (or properties and select the sharing tab) and click share my files. You can also do this with the whole c drive... my advice though, is to create a "network drive" PM me if you need any more halp.
 
ZKaudio said:
just make sure file sharing is enabled in windows... then to make things easier, put them in the same workgroup... the default is probably WORKGROUP or MSHOME. You should just be able to select the folder you want on the host computer and right click... then go to sharing (or properties and select the sharing tab) and click share my files. You can also do this with the whole c drive... my advice though, is to create a "network drive" PM me if you need any more halp.


Ok, I think I am going to PM you. Or rather this is what I need.

#1 I go to the primary computer and I create a network thingy? MY Computer>> My Network Places>> ????

#2 I go to second computer that I rarely use anymore but still has a lot of stuff (porn) on it. I click C: drive and enable file sharing.

#3 I would assume sitting at the Main Computer, I have to still enter my username/password on the old one for it to verify me?

What else?

Any online tutuorials?
 
that tutorial and link was no help. I have tried various combinations and nothing works.

Again, here is the scenario.

Computer 1 = WORK PC, the main one
Computer 2 & 3, Bullshit PCs that I want linked but no viewable to Computer 1.

I have a 2wire wireless network and print server that allows internet access to all my computer. Computer 2 & 3 have wireless adapters plugged in the back. Compute 1 has a built in.
 
Listen bitches, how about some damn feedback?

Ok, I tried this wireless internet network bullshit and not a damn thing works. And none of you bitches have given me a DumbAss Guide To Getting Set Up.

So, what next? How does PC Anywhere work? Or can I just put both computers side by side and connect them with a cable?
 
Phaded said:
do all computers involved have same os?


the two I want to connect one has XP Pro and the other has XP Media Center.


Here is basically what I am trying to do. I want to sit at one computer and access files and folders on the other one. If possible, I want to do away with the monitor, mouse and keyboard from one and just use the other to access everything from the box. If need be, I can move them next to one another.
 
ZKaudio said:
just make sure file sharing is enabled in windows... then to make things easier, put them in the same workgroup... the default is probably WORKGROUP or MSHOME. You should just be able to select the folder you want on the host computer and right click... then go to sharing (or properties and select the sharing tab) and click share my files. You can also do this with the whole c drive... my advice though, is to create a "network drive" PM me if you need any more halp.

this should have worked mr aap..
 
Phaded said:
this should have worked mr aap..


It didn't. Unless I am not making heads or tails of the instructions. (quite possibly) Can you do a step by step? 20,000 karma to you.
 
Right click "My Computer." Last item on the popup menu is "Properties." Open it, there should be tab on that window about "Computer Name." Click the "Change" button where it talks about joining a workgroup. (You don't want a domain, you want a workgroup.)

Use the Change button. Make sure the computer has a name and that you're making it a member of the same workgroup you're going to use for all the computers -- spelling counts. "AAP" would be a good domain name.

You're going to have to reboot, Windows is still stupid about that. Do this on each machine.

Okay, now that you're a member of the workgroup, you can right-click on your C: drive in Windows Explorer and set "Sharing" to share the disk.

You should then be able to go to "My Network Places" and open up (in this order) "Entire Network," "Microsoft Windows Network," and finally your Workgroup, whatever you called it.

In your workgroup you should now see all the computers you added (might take as long as five minutes for them all to show up, did I mention that Windows is stupid?) and you should be able to log on to any or all of them and see their juicy goodness.

Extra credit answer: PC Anywhere has nothing to do with sharing files (well, it has a file sharing thingy, but...); its main purpose is to let you move the mouse around and run programs on a remote computer as though you were sitting at it. It's not about pulling files off of that computer, at least not mostly.
 
digger said:
Right click "My Computer." Last item on the popup menu is "Properties." Open it, there should be tab on that window about "Computer Name." Click the "Change" button where it talks about joining a workgroup. (You don't want a domain, you want a workgroup.)

Use the Change button. Make sure the computer has a name and that you're making it a member of the same workgroup you're going to use for all the computers -- spelling counts. "AAP" would be a good domain name.

You're going to have to reboot, Windows is still stupid about that. Do this on each machine.

Okay, now that you're a member of the workgroup, you can right-click on your C: drive in Windows Explorer and set "Sharing" to share the disk.

You should then be able to go to "My Network Places" and open up (in this order) "Entire Network," "Microsoft Windows Network," and finally your Workgroup, whatever you called it.

In your workgroup you should now see all the computers you added (might take as long as five minutes for them all to show up, did I mention that Windows is stupid?) and you should be able to log on to any or all of them and see their juicy goodness.

Extra credit answer: PC Anywhere has nothing to do with sharing files (well, it has a file sharing thingy, but...); its main purpose is to let you move the mouse around and run programs on a remote computer as though you were sitting at it. It's not about pulling files off of that computer, at least not mostly.


Ok, I did all that. I then tried to expand the MSHOME directory under the Microsoft Windows Network and it says :

MSHOME is not accessible. You might not have permissions to use this network resource. Please contact your server administrator to find out if you have access permissions.
 
maybe I need to create my user account on the other computer I am trying to access.
 
Ok, still can not view one computer from the other. Still says I do not have permissions.

Computer 1 - Windows Media Center. The computer I want to use to view the other one. I want to keep this one as my "main" one because it has more memory, better graphics and a DVD burner on it. When I click MSHOME on the Explorer page, I see nothing.

Computer 2 - Windows XP, the one that I want to browse through from Computer 1.
When I click MSHOME on the Explorer page, I can't access anything, but at least I SEE the two different computers (Comp1 & Comp2) listed there. On Computer 1 when I try it, nothing happens.
 
ZKaudio said:
if you trust me, you can send me your ip and set up a temporary admin login/pass on the computer you want shared and I'll remote login and set it up for you...


how do I do that?
 
There's a wizard in XP systems to set up a small simple network - it should guide you tru the whole process - you run it on each PC. I dont remember the details, but it was ridiculously easy. I used to set up Lantastic & Novell nets and was dreading the process, but it was painless.

go to programs->accessories->communications->network setup wizard

If this works, will you renounce coldblue1955 and all his works, and join my team instead?

-
 
coldbluetool said:
There's a wizard in XP systems to set up a small simple network - it should guide you tru the whole process - you run it on each PC. I dont remember the details, but it was ridiculously easy. I used to set up Lantastic & Novell nets and was dreading the process, but it was painless.

go to programs->accessories->communications->network setup wizard

If this works, will you renounce coldblue1955 and all his works, and join my team instead?

-


that was the first thing I tried. here is the problem.

#1 one computer doesn't have a floppy drive (the Main One I am going to use) so I can not make a Network SetUp Disk like the wizard says to use.

#2 I bought both of these Dells and they came with XP Pro and XP Media Play on them, but no actual XP CDs

#3 I don't have a flash drive (USB) like the alternative method.

Weird and frustrating.

I want to network both of these so I can sit at one and have access to both. That way, I can do away with the monitor, keyboard, and mouse from one. I am trying to run everything on this 30 inch monitor/HDTV that I impulsively bought from CompUSA last week when it was on sale.
 
AAP said:
that was the first thing I tried. here is the problem.

#1 one computer doesn't have a floppy drive (the Main One I am going to use) so I can not make a Network SetUp Disk like the wizard says to use.

#2 I bought both of these Dells and they came with XP Pro and XP Media Play on them, but no actual XP CDs

#3 I don't have a flash drive (USB) like the alternative method.

Weird and frustrating.

I want to network both of these so I can sit at one and have access to both. That way, I can do away with the monitor, keyboard, and mouse from one. I am trying to run everything on this 30 inch monitor/HDTV that I impulsively bought from CompUSA last week when it was on sale.

well if you're able to set up the network, if I recall it'll only be a file sharing net, meaning you can access data files on that 2nd PC, but you wouldnt be able to run programs installed on it. so getting rid of the monitor and keyboard wouldnt be a good idea. last I looked at this was over a year ago, so somebody jump in if I got this wrong.

as to no disks, if both systems have the wizard, you shouldnt need to make a network disk to run on the 2nd PC. just make sure the workgroups are the same in the setup questioning.
 
It tells me I must run the Network on every computer after I make it. I tried doing it individually with just running the wizard on each and it didn't work.
 
coldbluetool said:
if I recall it'll only be a file sharing net, meaning you can access data files on that 2nd PC, but you wouldnt be able to run programs installed on it. so getting rid of the monitor and keyboard wouldnt be a good idea.


then what alternative do I have to just consolidate both PCs to one monitor?
 
Why don't you spend some of your over flowing cash flow and get
Best Buy GEEK SQUAD to come to your house and do this shit ?

Likely it will be some young kid that you can flirt with while he is
running wires under the desk..
 
Y_lifter said:
Why don't you spend some of your over flowing cash flow and get
Best Buy GEEK SQUAD to come to your house and do this shit ?

Likely it will be some young kid that you can flirt with while he is
running wires under the desk..


Why don't you either contribute to the thread or post elsewhere? Or better yet, stick around and entertain us with your penis envy.
 
AAP said:
then what alternative do I have to just consolidate both PCs to one monitor?

kvm switch lets you connect 2 pc's to the same monitor, switch back and forth with the push of a button. $40 or so
 
Mavafanculo said:
you're asking a cartoon character with a condom on his head for technical networking advice?


He said he would ask you.
 
AAP said:
He said he would ask you.
lol

I havent played with this stuff for a while, but I recall there was an A/B box that you could plug both PCs into and switch which PC was feeding the monitor at any given time. I dont know what the technical name for it is (mite be "a/b switch" lol)
 
AAP said:
Why don't you either contribute to the thread or post elsewhere? Or better yet, stick around and entertain us with your penis envy.


I did contribute you felching flammer.. I said have someone come in and do this shit right so you won't be posting up next week crying that the shit isn't working right due to your inept installation..

And I am quite happy with my penis, thank you very much..
 
Y_lifter said:
I did contribute you felching flammer.. I said have someone come in and do this shit right so you won't be posting up next week crying that the shit isn't working right due to your inept installation..

And I am quite happy with my penis, thank you very much..


Listen queerholio, perhaps you can put your internet skillz to better use for something other than researching how to cure the testiclitis that your chin is inflicted with and post up a solution.
 
Anyway... I won't be at home until about 10PM tonight to try to fool with those two again.

I am beginning to think maybe my firewall is what is causing the computers to not see each other. Both computers have their own firewall. I am going to try to disable it and see if that helps later.
 
Mava & yossa

Those devices would still require me to use the keyboard and mouse for each seperate box right? I want to get rid of those as well.
 
AAP said:
Anyway... I won't be at home until about 10PM tonight to try to fool with those two again.

I am beginning to think maybe my firewall is what is causing the computers to not see each other. Both computers have their own firewall. I am going to try to disable it and see if that helps later.

by default, windows firewall will not disable windows networking.

For the record you do NOT need to make a network floppy disk or w/e they call it. Just perform the same steps on each computer. try sharing a folder on each after running the wizard, then restart after folders are shared. Go into:

mynetworkplaces/ entire network/ microsoft windows network/ insertdomainnamehere/ insertcomputernamehere
 
ZKaudio said:
by default, windows firewall will not disable windows networking.

For the record you do NOT need to make a network floppy disk or w/e they call it. Just perform the same steps on each computer. try sharing a folder on each after running the wizard, then restart after folders are shared. Go into:

mynetworkplaces/ entire network/ microsoft windows network/ insertdomainnamehere/ insertcomputernamehere


I tried that.

Here is the scenario on how it is doing :

Computer 1 -
Entire Network
-->Microsoft Network
---->MSHOME
------>Computer 1 (can see everything on here, all files shared)
------>Computer 2 (can see NOTHING. Just the name, says I have to have administrator permission. I am already Administrator on both boxes)


Computer 2 -
Entire Network
-->Microsoft Network
---->MSHOME (when I click here, NOTHING shows up. Not even Computer 2 itself. It just says I do not have permission to access network.)

Now I do have Norton Internet Security enabled. I think that is a firewall type thingy. Maybe I should disable it?
 
AAP said:
Both computers have their own firewall. I am going to try to disable it and see if that helps later.


Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

Yes, it is probably dicking up the file sharing. When I setup my dad's system, the firewall was messing it up until I opened up the ports. Trouble shoot by turning them off. I think that is the prob. BTW, he was running Norton too.
 
Try this:

get the ip addresses of each of the computers you are working from (the name of the computer will also work for this)
to get an ip address: click start, click run, in the run command window type cmd and press enter. this brings you to a black dos window.
at dos type ipconfig
you will get an ip address of the computer you are on. write this down.

now from another computer that is on the network and click on the start button, then click run, and in the run box type //ipaddressfromtheotherpc/c$

it may then ask you for an id and password, here you would put the id of the administrator of the machine and a password if there is a password.


This will manually connect you to the other computer. you can also map a network drive if this works, by opening 'my computer', then click on tools, and choose map network drive. pick a drive letter to use, and for path put in \\ipaddressforothercomputer\c$ .. if you needed to put a password when connecting manually, click on the link 'connect using another computer' and put the id and password in here.
 
if you have a router, there is a very large chance, it has a built in firewall... unless you are terror suspect or something, I really doubt anyone's going to waste teh time hacking past that to then be foiled by your software firewall... i'd disable all software firewalls to make youre life simpler.
 
ZKaudio said:
if you have a router, there is a very large chance, it has a built in firewall... unless you are terror suspect or something, I really doubt anyone's going to waste teh time hacking past that to then be foiled by your software firewall... i'd disable all software firewalls to make youre life simpler.


I have a 2Wire wireless router and a Lynksis printer server running. All the computer have wireless network cards in them.
 
Ok, I am going to try the Disable Firewall method first.

if that doesn't work, then I will try what dawookie suggested.


But I won't be home until about 10PM. So all ya'll tell your wife and kids you ain't got time for them tonight after 10PM because AAP gonna be nuking every wireless router in South Florida.
 
AAP said:
So all ya'll tell your wife and kids you ain't got time for them tonight after 10PM because AAP gonna be nuking every wireless router in South Florida.

Just drive around with a 2.4ghz cordless phone. That will mess 'em up.
 
Ok, I disabled the firewall (Norton) and now the computers can see each other on the network. (YAY!!) However when I sit at one computer and expand the little [+] box besides it to list all the contents, everything comes up roses. Yet when I click on one of the folders there like I want to view it, it says I do not have permission to view those files that I have to be system admin.


My neat diagram again... (cool huh?)

Computer 1 - (where I am sitting)
Entire Network
-->Microsoft Network
---->MSHOME
------>Computer 1 (can see everything on here, all files shared)
------>Computer 2 [+] (expand)
-------->All of C: Drive
-------->Documents and Settings
-------->Desktop
-------->Program Files
----------> when I click on anything under the Computer 2 [+] sign, it says :

>>File Name<< not accessible. You do not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have permissions. Access denied.

I do have File and Folder sharing enabled on both PCs. I chose C: Drive and enable sharing there.
 
If you havent tried this already, give it a try.
On the computer that you want to access, click on my computer, then right click on drive c, and choose sharing and security, then on the sharing tab, check the box "share this folder on the network", and pick a name for the share (C would be fine for a name).


copy the bottom link into the run command or your internet browser to see the microsoft help regarding the issue:

ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\filefold.chm::/windows_share_your_folders.htm
 
dawookie said:
If you havent tried this already, give it a try.
On the computer that you want to access, click on my computer, then right click on drive c, and choose sharing and security, then on the sharing tab, check the box "share this folder on the network", and pick a name for the share (C would be fine for a name).


I already did that. Last night actually. I will try the link you gave me.
 
try typing \\pcname\c$ into the run command and see what you get. You may need an id/password to access the drive on the other computers.
 
dawookie said:
try typing \\pcname\c$ into the run command and see what you get. You may need an id/password to access the drive on the other computers.

Says network path not found.
 
instead of c$, try putting in whatever the name of the share is. and put the actual name of the pc or the ip address instead of pcname.
 
Do you get a response when you ping the computer? from dos type ping pcname and see if there is a response.

if you get a response then the problem is that the drive isnt shared correctly
 
dawookie said:
Do you get a response when you ping the computer? from dos type ping pcname and see if there is a response.

if you get a response then the problem is that the drive isnt shared correctly

Yes, I get a ping from each computer.
 
AAP said:
Mava & yossa

Those devices would still require me to use the keyboard and mouse for each seperate box right? I want to get rid of those as well.

best you can probably do is A/B switch the keyboard & mouse as well. you have to have a way to communicate with the operating system on that 2nd PC for maintenence, emergencies, and whatever else.

-
 
AAP said:
Ok, I have one computer that is for my work hooked into the router/dsl.

(ok, forget that one, I just mentioned it in case)


Now I have two other computers on wireless cards that access the same router and dsl line.

I want to sit at Computer #1 and access files on Computer #2.

Can I? Without using something like PCAnywhere?

If your talking about computers with Microsoft Windows,
1. turn on "file and printer sharing" in control panel
1. create a workgroup
2. name the 2 computers in "workgroup"
3. share the directories that you want to transfer files
 
gjohnson5 said:
If your talking about computers with Microsoft Windows,
1. turn on "file and printer sharing" in control panel
1. create a workgroup
2. name the 2 computers in "workgroup"
3. share the directories that you want to transfer files

I have done all that and still can see all the files from one machine on the other, but just do not have permissions to access the files.
 
I guess I should have done some more explaining.

You should log into the computers with the same username. The reason is because there are 2 layers of security. The first layer is the underlying permissions on the filesystem. The second layer is the permissions on the share. The permissions on the filesystem override the share everytime. So in order to write file over the network, you need to give yourself permissions in both spots. The easiest way to do that is to give yourself admin rights on both boxes and log into the machines with the same account name.

Ok, what you need to do is go to the computer where you shared the files and right click on the directory (I'm doing this in XP)

The second tab will sah "sharing" and there'll be a button towards the bottom called "permission"

Make sure the username that is writing files in this tab has write or full control.

The third tab says "security" This is the permissions on the filesystem and the username that is trying to read and write files has access to do so here as well. If you are the only person accessing these machines and they don't have internet access , you can just give everyone full control, but understand that anyone who walks up to the box and do anything in those directories as well


PM or email me if you have any questions
 
Have you checked the settings inside the router to ensure that it allows the wireless-enabled machines to talk to one another? Some routers by default disallow the wireless machines general network access as a security measure. It'll be called something like "Wireless Isolation".
 
Dude, you really need to find a local high school / college geek to come over and spend 1.4 minutes setting this up for you.
 
jnuts said:
Dude, you really need to find a local high school / college geek to come over and spend 1.4 minutes setting this up for you.


Hush.


And check your PM. Have some juicy gossip for you.

(not really, but would reallllllly love a couple of sentences from you.)
 
Hmmmm... I sent you a reply last night. But I just looked and it didn't go out. WTF is up with that? I'll re-send.
 
gjohnson5 said:
I guess I should have done some more explaining.

You should log into the computers with the same username. The reason is because there are 2 layers of security. The first layer is the underlying permissions on the filesystem. The second layer is the permissions on the share. The permissions on the filesystem override the share everytime. So in order to write file over the network, you need to give yourself permissions in both spots. The easiest way to do that is to give yourself admin rights on both boxes and log into the machines with the same account name.

Ok, what you need to do is go to the computer where you shared the files and right click on the directory (I'm doing this in XP)

The second tab will sah "sharing" and there'll be a button towards the bottom called "permission"

Make sure the username that is writing files in this tab has write or full control.

The third tab says "security" This is the permissions on the filesystem and the username that is trying to read and write files has access to do so here as well. If you are the only person accessing these machines and they don't have internet access , you can just give everyone full control, but understand that anyone who walks up to the box and do anything in those directories as well


PM or email me if you have any questions

I right click >> Sharing and Security>> Sharing>> but there is nothing on the bottom or anywhere else that says PERMISSIONS on it.

I don't see a Security Tab either.

All there is a box that says Allow Network Users To Change My Files
 
UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If I drag the file to My Shared Folder on one machine. I can view it from another machine.

Ok, the only problem here is that I don't want (or maybe even shouldn't) drag every single program I have into My Shared Folder. I have already gone to the root C: and enable File and Folder Sharing on the Network.

But maybe this is what is throwing me off.... When I created my share on the network :

Computer 1 (& 2)
Entire Network
-->Microsoft Network
---->MSHOME
-------------> the "share that I designated after putting it on the network was C. Now when I went to share the directory on the network I shared C: (physical harddrive letter). Maybe I should have just shared the C share and not the C:

Shit I got to leave and can't fight with it anymore this morning.
 
^^^^ scratch that last post. I just tried to share C (not C:) and there is no share function for it.

So back to throwing every single program in there in My Shared Folder? Sounds harsh.
 
C$ is a hidden share. ($) makes it hidden.

Why don't you just share out the individual folders with the programs/files you want?
 
jnuts said:
C$ is a hidden share. ($) makes it hidden.

Why don't you just share out the individual folders with the programs/files you want?


If I do, can I still run the programs on the box?

Instance, can I sit at one computer and run Azerus (P2P) on the other box and still have it download in the same place on that box and everything.

Second weird question, if I drag all these programs and files into the My Shared Folder are they moved there or will they stay in the same place on the directory and just have a shortcut type (pointer) in the My Shared Folder that allows it to access?
 
set me up a user account with login/pass zkaudio/snowball, then pm me the ip of the computer u want me to set up...and i'll log in and troubleshoot it for you. I will only do this from my office though so if you arent home right now ur sol. O and hide the ghey stuff on your drive lol
 
AAP said:
If I do, can I still run the programs on the box?

Instance, can I sit at one computer and run Azerus (P2P) on the other box and still have it download in the same place on that box and everything.
To do that, run TightVNC
AAP said:
Second weird question, if I drag all these programs and files into the My Shared Folder are they moved there or will they stay in the same place on the directory and just have a shortcut type (pointer) in the My Shared Folder that allows it to access?

If this is what you are trying to do - run programs on the other machine - I'd use TightVNC
 
jnuts said:
To do that, run TightVNC


If this is what you are trying to do - run programs on the other machine - I'd use TightVNC


Basically, well... here I go with another diagram. you gotta love my effort into these.

[computer 1] the better machine, better graphic cards, more mem, etc.. I use this one the most.

[computer 1] --hooked up to---> 30 inch HDTV tv/monitor

[computer 2] 4 years older than computer 1. has a bunch of shit on there that I want to keep, but do not want to copy to computer 1 and fill up the hard drive. Hoping this computer 2 will be good for two things. #1 running P2P downloads from Azerus and Bitlord. #2 acting as a storage site for backups to Computer 1. I want to do away with having to use a seperate keyboard, mouse and monitor for computer 2. Obviously, if I download shit on Computer 2 I want to be able to view it via Computer 1 and 30" monitor without having to physically copy it again to the computer 1 HD. Plus I still want to access some of the old files and shit I have on there from several years ago.
 
Computer 2 - setup file sharing and a TightVNC Server.
Computer 1 - setup file sharing and a TightVNC Client.

When you want to run programs on Comp2, connect to TightVNC from COmp1 to Comp2. Essentially, you will be remote controlling computer 2 from 1 and viewing the video of it on computer 1's screen.

Any files downloaded, stored on computer 2 - just set those directories out as shares, so you can access then via the network on computer 2.

Dude, you are worse than my DAD at this stuff.
 
Ok , back from having to do conferences and what not.
I think we've made some assumptions
1. What is your OS
2. What is the version of that OS?
3. Do you want just files sharing or do you want to install programs on computer 2 and run them on computer1.

The VNC server will work, but it's not needed for this purpose. Microsoft comes with connectivity called remote desktop (RDP) which is a free download and you can log into computer 2 from computer 1 etc...

The VNC server will work, but it opens more holes on the box.

Secondly , right click on a directory in my computer. Any directory in side my computer...
My computer --> C drive--> temp. Temp is a good test ground and I share my temp directories so I can copy downloads from machine A and machine VB , etc
 
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