How Do I know If My Test is Too Low ?

[Indy]

I was 3 weeks into a test/dbol/deca cycle and had to stop due to my BP going ballistic into the 170's. Instead of dropping alltogether, I went ahead and switched off to a Primo/Var cycle with Primo 900mg/week and Var 50mg/day. I am not 4 weeks into that cycle (7 weeks total with test) and I have noticed that I have no energy, totally listless and very depressed. So depressed I am sleeping ALOT and cannot even get into gym to train as I have no motivation to do anything whatsoever. Could this be to dropping the test and my body is trying to recover ?? Any help would be great, as this is really getting me down.

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[Ulter]

Yup. That's what it is. Your test has dropped off the table. Take a couple dbol every morning when you get up and you'll weather this much easier.

 

[Indy]

Yup. That's what it is. Your test has dropped off the table. Take a couple dbol every morning when you get up and you'll weather this much easier.

Thanks Ulter, I respect your wisdom. Any idea how long this will last ? Should stop cycle and do normal PCT then start new cycle when time comes ?? Or is there something I can take to keep my going while still on, like maintenence dose of test prop, ent ? etc... There is not much for gear or PCT that I dont actually have in stock, so any suggestions are possible. I am also losing quite abit of weight, miss the test from that perspective.

 

[TheRide]

Run a maint. dose of Test Cyp. Possibly, 500iu's of HCG 2x a week????

Bump to help him out.

 

[Indy]

Run a maint. dose of Test Cyp. Possibly, 500iu's of HCG 2x a week????

Bump to help him out.

Mixing up some HCG now
thx

 

[Ulter]

HCG will help. I don't know what your goal is. I don't want to tell you to put test back into your cycle if your BP is out of control. That's the easiest answer though. So I recommend if you want to stay with Primo/var then just take 2 dbol upon rising each day and your energy will be back in a couple days without upsetting your BP or your Primo/var cycle.

 

[Indy]

HCG will help. I don't know what your goal is. I don't want to tell you to put test back into your cycle if your BP is out of control. That's the easiest answer though. So I recommend if you want to stay with Primo/var then just take 2 dbol upon rising each day and your energy will be back in a couple days without upsetting your BP or your Primo/var cycle.

Understood, the goal was to bulk without the common bulking gear due to side effects, thanks again Ulter.

 

[JKurz1]

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[rockon1970]

Have you noticed any significant water retention? Could be that you're getting an estrogen buildup. High levels of estrogen can interfer with seratonin levels in the brain (much like PMS). This may or may not be the case with you, but something to think about.

I would HIGHLY suggest either going online or visiting the nearest GNC and getting some 6-OXO. I've had nothing but great results with it. First, six of those at night with your last meal and you'll loose any water bloat. Second, your nuts won't shrink, third, you'll keep your gains off cycle (or at least a good portion of them).

Nolvadex and Proviron are both good during cycle and cheaper (usually), but 6-OXO seems to work just as good and better for water rention for me at least. Plus you don't want to take Proviron off cycle. It can mess up natural test production for life.

 

[JKurz1]

Have you noticed any significant water retention? Could be that you're getting an estrogen buildup. High levels of estrogen can interfer with seratonin levels in the brain (much like PMS). This may or may not be the case with you, but something to think about.

I would HIGHLY suggest either going online or visiting the nearest GNC and getting some 6-OXO. I've had nothing but great results with it. First, six of those at night with your last meal and you'll loose any water bloat. Second, your nuts won't shrink, third, you'll keep your gains off cycle (or at least a good portion of them).

Nolvadex and Proviron are both good during cycle and cheaper (usually), but 6-OXO seems to work just as good and better for water rention for me at least. Plus you don't want to take Proviron off cycle. It can mess up natural test production for life.

COuld a vet verify this post?

 

[Indy]

Have you noticed any significant water retention? Could be that you're getting an estrogen buildup. High levels of estrogen can interfer with seratonin levels in the brain (much like PMS). This may or may not be the case with you, but something to think about.

I would HIGHLY suggest either going online or visiting the nearest GNC and getting some 6-OXO. I've had nothing but great results with it. First, six of those at night with your last meal and you'll loose any water bloat. Second, your nuts won't shrink, third, you'll keep your gains off cycle (or at least a good portion of them).

Nolvadex and Proviron are both good during cycle and cheaper (usually), but 6-OXO seems to work just as good and better for water rention for me at least. Plus you don't want to take Proviron off cycle. It can mess up natural test production for life.

no water retention, lost that when the test was dropped

 

[Ulter]

No proviron doesn't mess with your test for life when used off cycle.
6-oxo can be good, an aromatese inhibitor is much better. I don't know what you were using indy and I couldn't find it posted here. The water is not the issue now though.

 

[satchboogie]

friends and good bro INDY...

is it possible that the deca is whats causing this?

 

[Indy]

No proviron doesn't mess with your test for life when used off cycle.
6-oxo can be good, an aromatese inhibitor is much better. I don't know what you were using indy and I couldn't find it posted here. The water is not the issue now though.

Took nolvadex 20mg/day since day 1 of the cycle

 

[Ulter]

OK well that's not enough for you. You'll need to use a good dose of Aromatese Inhibitor if you want to do a similar cycle to the one you stopped. I suggest you find Aromasin and take one a day.

 

[JKurz1]

How would you add tribex, 6-0x0 and maca to your cycle? Thinking of lowering my dose of clomid and nolv and keeping hcg at 500mg m,w,f for last two weeks and maybe a little bit midcycle????

 

[Paulo]

OK well that's not enough for you. You'll need to use a good dose of Aromatese Inhibitor if you want to do a similar cycle to the one you stopped. I suggest you find Aromasin and take one a day.

Yup, exact thing I was thinking. Hitting up some adex, femara, or aromasin would have, more than likely, dropped your bp down to proper levels. It does mine.