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honesty here, how long do u guys take off in between cycles?
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hookuprx
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My last cycle was almost 10 months ago. I have alot of other shit to do and I am not all that serious about being huge. I give it my dedication, but being a monster isnt what I want. If I was competing, I probably wouldnt come off.
What are you planning after the dianabol?
thederrickm
What are you planning after the dianabol?
thederrickm
Pineapple Devil
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6 week cycle, this is my 8th week off and hopefully start either next week or the week after so approx 9-10 weeks off
mrt
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Amenselah said:
What are you talking about???
I guess you are one of the uneducated AAS users group who purely rely on drugs in order to grow. Do you have any clue about the health issues, risks of continous AAS use??? What about proper diet, workouts and rest which all are way important than steroids.hillbilly21
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i normally take the same amount off as i was on. 10 weeks on 10 weeks off
I agree, personally I think 8 weeks is good enough, and that includes clomid therapy. The longer you wait, the more you're gonna shrink, because you're not going to start making any really noticeable gains naturally even if you take 6 months off. Sure you may make some, but you will NEVER get back to where you were at the end of your last cycle. Eventually, you may stop LOSING muscle, but it still won't be close to where you once were. The only thing you do by taking long periods off is exactly like the quote says!!!
Just my personal experience.
javaguru
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You can still make quality changes to your physique while off and you can definitely improve strength but you won't see signifigant size gains once you've hit your genetic limit. That being said, I went from 200lbs to 250 lbs over the course of a year and a half doing two week cycles with at least four weeks off. I then stopped cycling and trained shitty for five years due to work and family constraints. I never dropped below 225lbs at 12% BF and now I'm back to 240lbs at 12% BF after one two week tren cycle and prohormones(mag-10). I've been off for over six months and haven't lost a pound. Proper training and nutrition will allow you to keep your gains without constant cycling unless you're trying to hold a competition worthy physique then you're gonna be on most of the year. In animal studies long term high dose steroid use DOES shorten lifespan.
decadur said:
You are way off base man. The way I know that I am ready to start again is when I reach the size I was at when I went of my cycle. I have done 3 cycles now and my last completed on eneded beggining of last january and I am now back to the weight I was when I stopped so I just started a new cycle a week ago. Now if your past your genetic potential you may need to jump on again sooner but I have not reached that so can't coment on it and thats my personal experience.
decadur said:
This is a fairly accurate statement as much as many of us don't want to hear it. If you're using AS correctly...as in to exceed far past your natural limits you simply will not be able to maintain that amount of muscularity without an suitable hormonal environment(being on AS). If you have used AS to get passed your natural plataue or set point then in reality you won't be able to make further muscle gains while off cycle. Strength gains are acheivable as they are not so much a product of AS use than actual muscle mass is. Reality is harsh, but the longer you stay off the more you will loose until you once again reach a point of muscle mass that your body can naturally sustain.
Manilla Gorilla
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Amenselah said:
You're kidding right? With proper clomid therapy, as well as, creatine, glutamine and ZMA there is no excuse for losing much if any size at all. This is of course unless you're taking like 10 A-Bombs a day.
Sensible AS use + sensible post cycle recovery methods + getting your ass in the squat rack (and I don't mean to do curls) + deadlifting = keeping your gains as well as making new ones.
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Nathan
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What's the big deal? Go by your blood work! I have taken to this and it works. I was on for 14 weeks (actually onger in essence) and came off for 8-9 weeks got my blood done and everything was normal - excpet liver values were still a bit high but going down, so I went back on without 17aa. It's the only way I'll be ready to compete next year and at least my health is still good and I know it. Got ultrasound done too and it was perfect. time on = time off is just a standar many seem to think fits. There is no REAL basis to it just that it seems to be enough time. Cut out the guess work and find out for sure. You'll be glad you did either way most likely. Frees up your conscience IMO or lets you know of any problems to hold off on going back on when you would have otherwise.
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3-4 months between 8 week cycles. (twice per year = 1 bulk & 1 cut)
Manilla Gorilla
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Watson said:
Time on, and that includes clomid therapy = time off.
If you eat right, get plenty of sleep, eat a lot of quality calories, try and avoid bad habits while training hard, then yes you can gain without the drugs. Training hard doesn't mean using little baby weights either. Training hard means having multijoint movements (ie squats, deadlifts, power cleans push presses etc...) as the core of your training routine.
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MuscularWarrier
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Has a all natural trainer I only use Myoplex at the moment which I cycle on 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off. I find that after the 8th week of Mypolex the gains start to drop off rapidley.
Muscular Warrior
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strength said:
Its not that I have no faith in myself, its just that, in my opinion, you are either a drug using bodybuilder or you're not. There's no in between! Doing 1 small cycle a year to gain 10 lbs, or doing cycles with 6 month+ off times, is a waste of money. I'm not saying that you can't have a good physique without drugs, you can have a VERY good physique without them, but if you choose to be a drug using bodybuilder, then to take very long off times is completely counterproductive and a waste of money. Its like those people that say that they just want to do one or 2 cycles and then stop. Why bother???
JibbyJabba
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MuscularWarrier said:
Why do we continue to put up with this fucking guy?
I usually do 2 cycles per year and keep most of my gains except this last one dont know what happened been shut down for months , the clomid didn't seem to work this last one and lost most of my gains. At 5'6 1/2 207 was 220 lbs I don't think I've reached my natural max,anyway to answer your question 6 months apart this year.
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