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Zyglamail said:
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Damn right!!!
LAND OF THE FREE?
This thread reminds me why I wrote LEGAL MUSCLE in the first place. Here's the book's Preface. Are steroids just the tip of the iceberg? Think about it, ... brave shepherds.
ON TRUTH AND FREEDOM
(Preface to LEGAL MUSCLE)
How do we know that what we believe to be true … is really true? What if some truths we’ve come to firmly believe are distortions, like reflections in a fun house mirror – mere illusions, created and maintained by those who benefit from our misplaced trust? Could such a thing happen in America? Would we let it happen?
It has happened. On one subject –anabolic steroids – what passes for common knowledge has little connection to reality. But we’ve been manipulated to believe it, and it’s in the interests of certain influential forces to keep the illusion going. They’re quite happy with it, even though many of the effects of the illusion have been catastrophic, both at the individual and societal levels.
How could it have happened? Easily enough, I’m afraid. Too many of us are sheep in the meadow, content to be herded. We blindly trust what we read in the daily papers or see on the evening news, and save our critical thinking only for those issues that appear to have a direct and immediate personal impact on us. Why question authority? It’s easier to let others decide what’s best for us. If a sports medicine physician proclaims that anabolics are deadly and dangerous drugs, we believe it without reservation. If a politician or government spokesman says our steroid laws are working, who are we to challenge it? Negative and alarming reports are all we’ve heard from the mainstream media; the flow of information to the public has been carefully controlled to ensure that. Inextricably binding steroids to cheating athletes has well served the agenda of some powerful special interests. Demonizing steroids has been great for the media. While alternative views exist, they have gone unheralded. Suppression and punishment seem totally natural public responses to the non-medical use of these substances. Freedom is never mentioned as having anything to do with it.
Freedom has everything to do with it. The more we submit to additional layers of governmental protection from ourselves, the more freedom we sacrifice. Where will it end? Prepare for further losses of freedom. The same players who brought us the Anabolic Steroid Control Act are at it again: this time to dupe us into believing that broadly depriving everyone of various over-the-counter health food supplements is in our best interests. Yet another freedom will be lost. Who knows what it will be next time?
British author George Orwell wrote the words, “Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four” – even though you’re being told otherwise. It’s the freedom to give voice to the real truth, untainted by disinformation and propaganda. Is that freedom of value to you? You have a choice. You can continue to believe what you’ve been told without thinking much. Or you can open your eyes to examine the facts and discover the truth for yourself. My aim is to help you to do that.
This book is limited to the topic of anabolic steroids. Together, we’ll explore all the legal and ethical territory associated with their use. You will probably be shocked and perhaps appalled by what you will read. You may feel a sense of outrage. If, at the end of our journey, you conclude that you had previously been manipulated and deceived about this subject, you may well find yourself asking what other “truths” may be illusory. How accurate and objective is the other information that’s been fed to us on issues of health and science policy? Or even, frighteningly, on issues of the economy, history, or national and world affairs? Take courage. There are many uncharted roads ahead, much to be explored, and a flock in the meadow in need of brave shepherds.
Rick Collins
October, 2002
This thread reminds me why I wrote LEGAL MUSCLE in the first place. Here's the book's Preface. Are steroids just the tip of the iceberg? Think about it, ... brave shepherds.
ON TRUTH AND FREEDOM
(Preface to LEGAL MUSCLE)
How do we know that what we believe to be true … is really true? What if some truths we’ve come to firmly believe are distortions, like reflections in a fun house mirror – mere illusions, created and maintained by those who benefit from our misplaced trust? Could such a thing happen in America? Would we let it happen?
It has happened. On one subject –anabolic steroids – what passes for common knowledge has little connection to reality. But we’ve been manipulated to believe it, and it’s in the interests of certain influential forces to keep the illusion going. They’re quite happy with it, even though many of the effects of the illusion have been catastrophic, both at the individual and societal levels.
How could it have happened? Easily enough, I’m afraid. Too many of us are sheep in the meadow, content to be herded. We blindly trust what we read in the daily papers or see on the evening news, and save our critical thinking only for those issues that appear to have a direct and immediate personal impact on us. Why question authority? It’s easier to let others decide what’s best for us. If a sports medicine physician proclaims that anabolics are deadly and dangerous drugs, we believe it without reservation. If a politician or government spokesman says our steroid laws are working, who are we to challenge it? Negative and alarming reports are all we’ve heard from the mainstream media; the flow of information to the public has been carefully controlled to ensure that. Inextricably binding steroids to cheating athletes has well served the agenda of some powerful special interests. Demonizing steroids has been great for the media. While alternative views exist, they have gone unheralded. Suppression and punishment seem totally natural public responses to the non-medical use of these substances. Freedom is never mentioned as having anything to do with it.
Freedom has everything to do with it. The more we submit to additional layers of governmental protection from ourselves, the more freedom we sacrifice. Where will it end? Prepare for further losses of freedom. The same players who brought us the Anabolic Steroid Control Act are at it again: this time to dupe us into believing that broadly depriving everyone of various over-the-counter health food supplements is in our best interests. Yet another freedom will be lost. Who knows what it will be next time?
British author George Orwell wrote the words, “Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four” – even though you’re being told otherwise. It’s the freedom to give voice to the real truth, untainted by disinformation and propaganda. Is that freedom of value to you? You have a choice. You can continue to believe what you’ve been told without thinking much. Or you can open your eyes to examine the facts and discover the truth for yourself. My aim is to help you to do that.
This book is limited to the topic of anabolic steroids. Together, we’ll explore all the legal and ethical territory associated with their use. You will probably be shocked and perhaps appalled by what you will read. You may feel a sense of outrage. If, at the end of our journey, you conclude that you had previously been manipulated and deceived about this subject, you may well find yourself asking what other “truths” may be illusory. How accurate and objective is the other information that’s been fed to us on issues of health and science policy? Or even, frighteningly, on issues of the economy, history, or national and world affairs? Take courage. There are many uncharted roads ahead, much to be explored, and a flock in the meadow in need of brave shepherds.
Rick Collins
October, 2002
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Zyglamail said:
I was deliberately sarcastic and using double-speak. I'm not entirely sure that you got that.
Rick Collins said:
Exactly this happened to me after I first started smoking weed.
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Very sweet... Again... I can't recommend this book enough. Not only does it answer MANY questions, but it presents the OTHER side... OUR side... it helps you realize that you aren't alone... and that other people, people who can make a difference, are on your side.
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You're awesome Rick. I too have extrapolated the inconsistencies found in steroid law and belief to many other things, and it is in fact quite disturbing..
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Disturbing? I call it downright frustrating. Many of the beliefs on Steroids are just plain false. I get extremely aggravated at ignorance in any capacity.
If you read through Rick's book, you will see just how it goes... how the media and government play on people's paranoia in order to scare them into believing that steroids KILL teenagers. Now, with the recent rash of the Patriot Act... the simple purchase of steroids could be condoned as supporting terrorism?? That is INSANE to think that the two could ever be connected.... INSANE!
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If you read through Rick's book, you will see just how it goes... how the media and government play on people's paranoia in order to scare them into believing that steroids KILL teenagers. Now, with the recent rash of the Patriot Act... the simple purchase of steroids could be condoned as supporting terrorism?? That is INSANE to think that the two could ever be connected.... INSANE!
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Honestly, there is some truth to that. Anytime that something is illegal, it raises the opportunity cost. The initial "cost" is not monetary, rather it comes in the form of "It isn't worth getting busted." Which translates to money by those who deal in the black market (criminals, no matter how moral or immoral).
When something is black market, it becomes part of organized crime, so when you purchase a black market item, you may be supporting some other form of crime.
This reminds me of the Partnership for a Drug Free America ads that depict young people saying things like "I helped kill a man," "I helped innocent people be slaughtered," "My body, my choice," et c. You remeber those? Maybe they're still on TV, I don't know because I hardly watch TV.
My immediate and persistent reaction to this advertisement is this: Why are you, Partnership for a Drug Free America, blaming the consumers for the horrible side effects of drug laws? We didn't make drugs illegal, in fact, we want them to be legal so they will be safer for us! We don't like going to bad neighborhoods, getting ripped off, buying bunk! Do we like sponsoring terrorism? Although that's much less individually consequential, I know I don't like it! (Your average crack smoker probably doesn't pontificate where his dollar ends up and how that affects things outside his little world, but I digress...)
Oh if they were to decriminalize LSD! People would start looking at things, start really observing, being forced to think independently. Of course, you have to have taken it to know what I'm talking about. I've done it hundreds of times. Do I sound like a brain dead idiot? A crazed zealot? A brainwashed fool?
Thats a cop out if ive ever heard one and can apply equally to many forms of legal business as well. How many "legal" business are backed by and laundering money for illegal business? Business is business, legal or not and it is all tightly interwoven, one benefits from the other. Hell, even terrorism fuels the economy of "legal" business. It gets very convoluted and I think its very missleading to state all "illegal" money goes to terrorism or supporting other crime, but good ol uncle sam needs to justify their actions, no matter how skewed so they take something that may be based in part on fact and exploit it to their benefit.Garrett Smith said:
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Coffee, diamonds, cocoa are backed by slavery. Probably more, but those are well-known.
Not all "illegal" money goes to supporting terrorism. Consider the enviro-friendly hippy who grows weed and tomatoes. He uses money to pay for stuff he needs. People smoke his weed, and there is harmony.
Rereading my cited passage, it makes clear and perfect sense!
The problem is, it's hard to say where the end consumer's money goes. This is another opportunity cost: the cost of not knowing where your money ends up. This "cost" has a lower overall impact on the market than the cost of getting busted, though.
But some money does go to supporting other crime.
Among legal business, there is a lot more information. Some examples are "fair trade" cocoa/coffee, DeBeers
, CA certified organic. There's a lot more reliable information that is readily available. You're unlikely to get such info from an illegal source.Then why are we loosing freedoms? Such great people wouldn't allow this to happen, would they?
Who doesn't care about steroids being illegal? They who don't use steroids. It's a similar mentality to sin-taxes and to a lesser extent "It's not in my backyard" mentality. In some regards, it parallels the scape-goat mentality.
Criminalizing behavior practiced marginally and by few is accepted. Making racist/anti-gay remarks could get you in a lot of trouble, socially. I guess it's about social thought patterns and the tendency to accept the norm. These things take time to change, I think.
So where I see the root of the problem is in social mentality. Government is a symptom, not a cause.
I've never studied sociology, though I think now that I should. Any book recommendations?
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I'm curious as to what federal agents appeared at the school. DEA and FBI remain within the DOJ.
In any event, the DEA has done some interesting things as part of it's recent enforcement activites. Having served search and seizure warrants on certain domestic online pharmacies, the web sites and domain names were seized as well. When persons entered the URL and endeavored to surf on over to these sites... surprise(!), they were re-directed to the DEA's web page!
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In any event, the DEA has done some interesting things as part of it's recent enforcement activites. Having served search and seizure warrants on certain domestic online pharmacies, the web sites and domain names were seized as well. When persons entered the URL and endeavored to surf on over to these sites... surprise(!), they were re-directed to the DEA's web page!
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