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Dude at the gym I know... one of the more tolerable ones... lost his job. Amazing sequence of events.....

He worked for GE. He was a network admin... (you know where this is leading...) he was voted in the top 10% of employees in the company. They sent him to Dallas,TX to implement some kind of billion dollar system out there. He came back and they loved it so much, they gave him a 11K bonus raise. On the spot, not tied in with his performance review or some shit. He went from 48K to 59K in the next paycheck. They gave him an award at a luncheon last week. Monday, he was told his job was going to India. Goodbye.

No joke. He lost his fucking job to India. So in all, his 11K raise yielded a whopping $182 for one pay check.
 
sucky
 
jerkbox said:
fired or laid off?

Samething.... he aint' got no job. He was "outsourced".

The kicker here was last year, he was telling me how valueable he was to his other job and they would never get rid of him. Week later, he was laid off. Last week, he is telling me the same shit, how valueable he was and they could never replace him, again.... week later, unemployed.

At least he got some revenge in the first job. The company dealt with satellite boxes and he turned his boss and supervisor in for copying (cloning) the cards and selling them to friends.
 
On the plus side, at least he got 4 million of these new jobs Bush is creating to choose from.
 
That's cold-blooded but par for the course. How do you outsource a network admin? Is Ali Haji Sheik gonna fly over and reboot a server at 3AM. That power over ethernet shit ain't all it's cracked up to be.
 
Bodhi_78 said:
whats upp AAP still got that appartment for rent by the beach?


None of my condos are near the beach. Well, the closest is 2 miles from the beach, however in real estate terms down here that doesn't qualify as "near the beach". You have to be within a 1000 yards to gain that status. (it seems).

My tenants are still there. Very nice people actually.

What's up with you now?
 
im just fed up with shit where i work. im wondering if i shouldnt take some months off from everything. rent something and just train and relax.
 
Unfortunate, but if he's that good he'll have no problem getting another job. Especially in the big D. Fact of the matter is, companies must minimize costs to remain competitive or many more will lose jobs. They exist to make a profit for their shareholders, not to provide jobs. I'm sure your friend can understand this.
 
Yeah, but according to many people here -- outsourcing is good for IT here.

Don't forget -- according to many news sources, there's MILLIONS of jobs out there, in fact -- there's a SHORTAGE of good IT folks!

So he'll be fine. In fact he'll probably get more money (btw: $49k salary? good god).
 
don't forget the OTHER huge benefit of outsourcing.

no TAXES and NO HEALTHCARE benefits u gotta pay for that worker.

Why pay $50k when u can pay $25k.
 
AAP said:
No joke. He lost his fucking job to India. So in all, his 11K raise yielded a whopping $182 for one pay check.

Yeah, but think of what his sacrifice will do for the stockholders. Thanks to your friend, some little old lady who has part of her retirement fund invested in GE, will be able to eat human food instead of catfood now.
 
Mr. dB said:
Yeah, but think of what his sacrifice will do for the stockholders. Thanks to your friend, some little old lady who has part of her retirement fund invested in GE, will be able to eat human food instead of catfood now.

BAH!!

Yes, this is sad.
 
Mr. dB said:
Yeah, but think of what his sacrifice will do for the stockholders. Thanks to your friend, some little old lady who has part of her retirement fund invested in GE, will be able to eat human food instead of catfood now.

Is that why old people smell funny?
 
My brother works for U.S. Motors a division of Emerson Electric....he has been with them for close to 10 years....it is just a matter of time before this will happen to him..........
 
ttlpkg said:
Unfortunate, but if he's that good he'll have no problem getting another job. Especially in the big D. Fact of the matter is, companies must minimize costs to remain competitive or many more will lose jobs. They exist to make a profit for their shareholders, not to provide jobs. I'm sure your friend can understand this.
A laugh a post. :laugh2:
 
ttlpkg said:
Unfortunate, but if he's that good he'll have no problem getting another job. Especially in the big D. Fact of the matter is, companies must minimize costs to remain competitive or many more will lose jobs. They exist to make a profit for their shareholders, not to provide jobs. I'm sure your friend can understand this.

You heard the federal employee folks.

Also, many shareholders in a company may be people who invest in the stock market for profit. They may oppose this view on corporate conduct. So may the purchasers of that corporations products & services.
 
ttlpkg said:
We all make choices in life. Don't whine if your choice doesn't work out the way you hoped. Move on.

LOL. and i want bush dead too, is that right? I just find it funny you say all this stuff and you are a government employee, thats all.
 
ttlpkg said:
Unfortunate, but if he's that good he'll have no problem getting another job. Especially in the big D. Fact of the matter is, companies must minimize costs to remain competitive or many more will lose jobs. They exist to make a profit for their shareholders, not to provide jobs. I'm sure your friend can understand this.


Sadly, there is some truth to this. His job and over 600 more for GE were outsourced in order to save money. The money "saved" of course was only so the senior supervisors and executive wannabes could continue to draw their own salaries after a budget cut. It had nothing to do with providing a service or product to their customers. It is one thing if business is bad to cut jobs in order to drop payroll expenses, but when business is average (we are talking GE here) they cut jobs just to save their own positions and that of their friends.
 
AAP said:
Sadly, there is some truth to this. His job and over 600 more for GE were outsourced in order to save money. The money "saved" of course was only so the senior supervisors and executive wannabes could continue to draw their own salaries after a budget cut. It had nothing to do with providing a service or product to their customers. It is one thing if business is bad to cut jobs in order to drop payroll expenses, but when business is average (we are talking GE here) they cut jobs just to save their own positions and that of their friends.
GE is quite a funny entity that's for sure - they're pretty much aiming to be a 25% Indian operation within 5 years - but MAN do they have problems with India-US communication LOL! They are probably incurring greater running costs IMHO.
 
AAP said:
Sadly, there is some truth to this. His job and over 600 more for GE were outsourced in order to save money. The money "saved" of course was only so the senior supervisors and executive wannabes could continue to draw their own salaries after a budget cut. It had nothing to do with providing a service or product to their customers. It is one thing if business is bad to cut jobs in order to drop payroll expenses, but when business is average (we are talking GE here) they cut jobs just to save their own positions and that of their friends.

That just gives me such a bad taste in my mouth.
 
AAP said:
Sadly, there is some truth to this. His job and over 600 more for GE were outsourced in order to save money. The money "saved" of course was only so the senior supervisors and executive wannabes could continue to draw their own salaries after a budget cut. It had nothing to do with providing a service or product to their customers. It is one thing if business is bad to cut jobs in order to drop payroll expenses, but when business is average (we are talking GE here) they cut jobs just to save their own positions and that of their friends.
Sadly............this is a best case scenario.

From a historical perspective, it is equally likely that a number of jobs got outsourced so some executives could free up cash to gives themselves a hefty raise and a huge bonus.


I used to ride the elevator that the executives of a "certain" large company took. They all looked frightened.......I'm certain some of the threats from discarded employess were quite real.


Consider the ethics of "laying off" 3000 employess then rewarding yourself with a few million dollars that were suddenly freed up. Of course..........the companies service went to hell but utilities have no real competition.
 
ttlpkg said:
Unfortunate, but if he's that good he'll have no problem getting another job. Especially in the big D. Fact of the matter is, companies must minimize costs to remain competitive or many more will lose jobs. They exist to make a profit for their shareholders, not to provide jobs. I'm sure your friend can understand this.
He may find another job without a problem, but the fact remains that the number of jobs available in his field will shrink. If he finds another job without a problem, he will be an exception.

Testosterone boy said:
A laugh a post. :laugh2:

ttlpkg said:
I'm glad to see you're enjoying your lesson in economics. No charge this time.
The economics lesson is that while some opportunities disappear new things become possible, creating new and possibly very distinct opportunities. IT jobs will, in general, disappear. Obviously some IT sectors will not change, but these are either very low paying or very high paying.

It is a fact that some people will lose market value in ways that will not be followed by magic rejuvenation. Someone who trained for a position/field for years with no indication that his/her opportunities would be suddenly limited will not be able to find as good of a job as he/she would if outsourcing didn't manifest itself.
 
This is akin to American Airlines going to the unions and saying they'd have to go into bankruptcy if they didn't get concessions, while at the same time they were creating a lucrative pension plan for all top executives.
 
Sounds familiar. P&G is doing the same thing. Alot of their stuff is being outsourced. I worked there 25+ yrs & got "bought out" last year. You don't see them cutting back on any of those million dollar VP jobs though do ya? Only good thing is their stock is getting ready to split again in about a month so that'll sure help us retirees with the ol' profit sharing retirement plan. heheh
 
A lot of the bigger firms are outsourcing, and specifically, many are going to India. Seems like there are a lot of tech-savvy folks over there. From my brief stint in the IT world, it seemed as though every Indian person knew some form of Oracle DBA stuff. Weird.

Sorry for your friend, but I'm sure he'll find something else (better).

...bd
 
browndog1 said:
A lot of the bigger firms are outsourcing, and specifically, many are going to India. Seems like there are a lot of tech-savvy folks over there. From my brief stint in the IT world, it seemed as though every Indian person knew some form of Oracle DBA stuff. Weird.

Sorry for your friend, but I'm sure he'll find something else (better).

...bd

I thought Oracle DBA workers were in demand here. Or is that going out the window too?
 
nordstrom said:
LOL. and i want bush dead too, is that right? I just find it funny you say all this stuff and you are a government employee, thats all.

I make no apologies for making the Army a career, as a matter of fact I'm proud of my service. Like I said, we all make choices. For what it's worth, in less than 18 months I'll retire and enter the private sector.
 
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