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Hives from test?

oxymed

oxymed

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Just wondering if anyone has ever gotten hives from test-e.......ive been running test-c and am switching over to Test-E.......first shot of E was 8 days ago, and second shot was 3 days ago....yesterday when i woke up in the morning ive got hives all over my legs and arms........im also using AIFM so i dropped that and got some Aromasin on the way........i have run Test-E in the past with no problem, but it was a different brand.......any info would be a help. thanks
 
If you had run the Test for a week or two b/f getting hives, then I would say its not from the test.

are you on any other meds?
 
I bet it's the AIMF. Once I developed an allergy to it I got the rash even on areas i wasn't using it. Stop it for 2 weeks and then just use it every 3rd day. As soon as you feel a tingle in those areas stop it for 4-5 days. Worked for me.
 
oxymed said:
Just wondering if anyone has ever gotten hives from test-e.......ive been running test-c and am switching over to Test-E.......first shot of E was 8 days ago, and second shot was 3 days ago....yesterday when i woke up in the morning ive got hives all over my legs and arms........im also using AIFM so i dropped that and got some Aromasin on the way........i have run Test-E in the past with no problem, but it was a different brand.......any info would be a help. thanks
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never heard of this from test E
 
Ulter said:
It's most likely not the AIFM. AIFM causes contact dermatitis if you become allergic. In other words, the breakout is only where you put it.
Your hives are from your gear. The maker of the gear, UG no doubt, used a seed oil that you're allergic to. Don't shoot it again.
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Yeah the hives are all over........not just application sites of AIFM......the gear is UG lab that i have never tried before........which sucks because i got 100ml of Test-E and 50ml of EQ .........thanks for the input
 
oxymed said:
Yeah the hives are all over........not just application sites of AIFM......the gear is UG lab that i have never tried before........which sucks because i got 100ml of Test-E and 50ml of EQ .........thanks for the input
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can you say what brand?
 
Ulter said:
It's most likely not the AIFM. AIFM causes contact dermatitis if you become allergic. In other words, the breakout is only where you put it.
Your hives are from your gear. The maker of the gear, UG no doubt, used a seed oil that you're allergic to. Don't shoot it again.
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I'm going to differ with you on this one based on my own experience. Once I developed a sensitivety to AIMF It caused a rash in any area I had EVER used it even if I rotated sites. A 2 week layoff helped greatly. If he has elevated histamine levels from the gear and a sensitivity to AIMF then the topical could cause flare-ups in non-use areas.
After my reaction to AIMF I don't think anyone should assume it is not the problem. It is such a great product that it is worth it to take a short layoff! When the rash get's bad it can take weeks to clear up and my histamine levels stayed elevated for 3 weeks.
I use it now every few days with only minor problems....if I use it 2-3 days in a row I start to get the rash on EVERY site I have ever used it on! Just my experience......
 
it may be some other item within the suspension that is causing the allergy, not specifically the test.

also, if something within the aifm is absorbed into the systemic bloodstream then you could possibly get hives anywhere, not just the contact area.

benadryl may help with the rash, although makes me sleepy as hell-

you may never know until you try one without the other or something-

good luck bro-

Cal
 
BTW......ive been using the AIFM for 13 weeks with no problems.......and used it in my last cycle.
 
medical said:
I'm going to differ with you on this one based on my own experience. Once I developed a sensitivety to AIMF It caused a rash in any area I had EVER used it even if I rotated sites. A 2 week layoff helped greatly. If he has elevated histamine levels from the gear and a sensitivity to AIMF then the topical could cause flare-ups in non-use areas.
After my reaction to AIMF I don't think anyone should assume it is not the problem. It is such a great product that it is worth it to take a short layoff! When the rash get's bad it can take weeks to clear up and my histamine levels stayed elevated for 3 weeks.
I use it now every few days with only minor problems....if I use it 2-3 days in a row I start to get the rash on EVERY site I have ever used it on! Just my experience......
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I am familiar with your experience.
It's not the problem.
AIFM has never caused full body hives in anyone. In the 11 months it's been out. Using a seed oil that one might be allergic to does and HAS caused full body hives. He's using a new UG gear. The maker probably uses oils he shouldn't.
Even your experience, and you're the most sensitive case, did not result in hives in places you didn't use it. And I'm betting it didn't result in hives ANYWHERE but rather a rash as you posted here. It's never caused hives.
 
Ulter said:
I am familiar with your experience.
It's not the problem.
AIFM has never caused full body hives in anyone. In the 11 months it's been out. Using a seed oil that one might be allergic to does and HAS caused full body hives. He's using a new UG gear. The maker probably uses oils he shouldn't.
Even your experience, and you're the most sensitive case, did not result in hives in places you didn't use it. And I'm betting it didn't result in hives ANYWHERE but rather a rash as you posted here. It's never caused hives.
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True. Like I said though I kept on using the AIMF for a few days and wish I had backed off as soon as I had the first symptom. The Aromasin I use most of the time now is not nearly as effective as AIMF. My main point was that if he has elevated histamine levels he should be careful with any topical product until those levels return to normal.
 
If you are using a UG lab make sure you know what oil base they are using, some people are allergic to grape seed or seasame oils.
 
medical said:
. My main point was that if he has elevated histamine levels he should be careful with any topical product until those levels return to normal.
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agree. just to be on the safe side, histamine is not specific and any kind of irritant may cause a further reaction.



note- also agree that aromasin is generally not as effective as AIFM. This is likely due to the fact that its 6-methylated (necessary for its oral bioavailablily but decreasing its affinity) also its lack of inhibition of 5-beta reductase.

note2- also agree that the hives are likely due to a reaction with either the oil or a solubilizing agent (such reactions are fairly common with both in prone individuals). Ester based reactions while uncommon are also a possibility. Could also be a contaminent to which he has an allergy (so not necessarily presenting in others)
 
I just talked to my source and he uses cottenseed oil in all of his gear.......and he said he has never had a complaint like this before...
 
medical said:
True. Like I said though I kept on using the AIMF for a few days and wish I had backed off as soon as I had the first symptom. The Aromasin I use most of the time now is not nearly as effective as AIMF. My main point was that if he has elevated histamine levels he should be careful with any topical product until those levels return to normal.
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Right. Allergens can also compound to get a reaction. You can be mildly allergic to peanuts and beer and if you don't mix them you're fine.
Then you go to a ballgame, mix the two, and you get hives.
 
Ulter said:
The third consideration should be you ate something you're allergic to.
But just to be certain...
Open a fresh pin and lightly (no blood) make a small scratch on your inner forearm with it. Then put a drop of the gear on the scratch. Let it sit for about 5 min. See what happens.
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i will give this a try tonight ......thanks.
is this a pretty common oil in gear?
 
Ulter said:
The third consideration should be you ate something you're allergic to.
But just to be certain...
Open a fresh pin and lightly (no blood) make a small scratch on your inner forearm with it. Then put a drop of the gear on the scratch. Let it sit for about 5 min. See what happens.
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that is an awesome idea a friggin home alergy test wow
i see why you were mentioned in the people i learned from thread
another thread cut and pasted to my AAS log

your hives could be the result of very many things
have you had this type of alergic reaction to anything else before?
are you on any medication at all?
your main concern with this type of reaction is if you get hives on the throat or face. look for swelling of the lip or tounge and any difficluty breathing if any swellin occurs call 911 or have a friend drive you to the emergancy room pronto
this is important
also alergic reactions can result from a substance you have used before without problems so dont dismiss anything that might have caused it
 
acneman said:
that is an awesome idea a friggin home alergy test wow
i see why you were mentioned in the people i learned from thread
another thread cut and pasted to my AAS log

your hives could be the result of very many things
have you had this type of alergic reaction to anything else before?
are you on any medication at all?
your main concern with this type of reaction is if you get hives on the throat or face. look for swelling of the lip or tounge and any difficluty breathing if any swellin occurs call 911 or have a friend drive you to the emergancy room pronto
this is important
also alergic reactions can result from a substance you have used before without problems so dont dismiss anything that might have caused it
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This is the first time i have ever had any kind of reaction to anything.........no swelling in the neck or face just hives mostly on inner thighs and upper inside of arms and inside of wrists........not taking any meds just a few different supplement which i have been taking for a while. thanks for your input.
 
oxymed said:
This is the first time i have ever had any kind of reaction to anything.........no swelling in the neck or face just hives mostly on inner thighs and upper inside of arms and inside of wrists........not taking any meds just a few different supplement which i have been taking for a while. thanks for your input.
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ah yes
when i started to have a reaction to keflex it started in the crotch and under arms and spread over a period of 24 hrs to every where ixcept hands feet and face
and i had been takin the antibiotic for a long time before i got the reaction
like a month or more
read the labels on your supps as some can have alergic reactions that can develope over time
but yeah it sounds like an aspect of the gear
good luck and let us know how that test ulter talked about works out if you do it
 
acneman said:
ah yes
when i started to have a reaction to keflex it started in the crotch and under arms and spread over a period of 24 hrs to every where ixcept hands feet and face
and i had been takin the antibiotic for a long time before i got the reaction
like a month or more
read the labels on your supps as some can have alergic reactions that can develope over time
but yeah it sounds like an aspect of the gear
good luck and let us know how that test ulter talked about works out if you do it
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I will do Ulter test later tonight and post results.......as for now im going to quit taking both the test-E and AIFM .......once things clear up i will start taking one of them at a time and see what happens.
 
oxymed said:
I will do Ulter test later tonight and post results.......as for now im going to quit taking both the test-E and AIFM .......once things clear up i will start taking one of them at a time and see what happens.
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cool
good plan
 
The very first batch of Test- E that I made from powder I used Mazela (mispelled)? corn oil, because I was new to mixing powders and read "use corn oil off the market shelf " It made me itch from head to toe for about a week. Drove me nuts. Ending up throwing it away.
 
Yeah, I'm also going to bet it's the oil. Just rub it on your skin and the skin should most likely get inflamed if it's that.
 
Well just did the skin scrape and then applied oil to it........nothing happened......i left the oil on the site for over ten minutes....the hives are clearing up pretty good this morning.........so it appears they only lasted about 2.5 days.........so i guess im going to let it clear up all the way and then i will inject some more and see what happens.....thank for the help everyone!.........i will update again when i inject more.
 
well just wanted to update on this........well its NOT the gear or the AIFM....not really sure what the hell caused it but it cleared up in about 3 days and has never happened again ........ive been using both the gear and AIFM. :)
 
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