I didnt notice anything till about the 4th week. Had a nice strength surge, and muscles definetely got pumped up quicker and I was alot harder. I ran 100mg/day for 8 weeks.. No side effects, or any bloat.. Used BDs tbol!
I was using 40-50mg/d and wasn't impressed. Then bumped it up to 60mg/d and was not impressed, then bumped it up to 80-100mg/d and still wasn't impressed. I was on 80mg/d for awhile too and didn't really see much added in gains. The only reason why I stayed on for so long was because I had a boat load of the stuff.