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Higher and Higher Test..

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I think i know the answer to the question but here we go. Why do you have to go up on test each time you cycle. I assume its the receptors but still want to know. If you grow at 200 on your first cycle to pct than why cant you grow at 200 a year later?? Also if you start at lets say 750 could you not ever grow at 250 a year later after proper time off and pct? Like i said i assume its receptor sites but i dont know. Or is it just something that people have done for ages and no rhyme or reason.? Thanks
 
i've been growing on 300mg of test for the past year

came off for a short while, it still has the same effect on me
 
i think its cause test just makes u feel soo damn good ... like a daily bj when u wake up with a woody ......ya its kinda like that.
 
I went up pretty high before and decided I didn't get alot more out of it and had worse sides so the next time I went back down to my regular dose and got just as good of gains. I had taken a year off also so that may have helped. I started at 250mgs for my first few cycles and now I like to run 500mgs. I tried a gram and it's just not worth it for me!
 
I dont notice too much difference between 1gm & 1.7gms which is the highest test I have run. But mood swings, increased metabolism & aggression definately kicks in over a gram for me. I'm only doing 500mg at present with eq/deca/winny & kickin ass in the gym. Broke my leg press max tonight, now 11 plates a side x 6. So more is not always better.
 
stay low until u cant grow. :)

i think alot of people dont even try to stay at the same dose. they start off with 250mg ew and had good gains. the next cycle they are up 2 500mg ew without reason.
 
GUARDIAN said:
stay low until u cant grow. :)

i think alot of people dont even try to stay at the same dose. they start off with 250mg ew and had good gains. the next cycle they are up 2 500mg ew without reason.

Agreed. Not throwing anyone under the bus here, but I think a lot of people use higher amounts of gear to compensate for what they lack in training and diet routines. Granted some people simply need higher amounts. One of my friends weighed a good 160lbs and needed three times the amount of test and EQ I was on just to get results. Nuts I tell ya!!
 
i think that sometimes the test isn't always dosed properly. if u get from an underground lab you never really know. i think that 750 could easily be 500 or 500 could be 750. i find that with the gear i run the sweet spot is right around 600-650 ew.
 
GUARDIAN said:
stay low until u cant grow. :)
greatest advice ever given right here. I started off at 200mg/ew and grew off it....this was around 21 yrs old. My next cycle was 400mg/ew and my third was finally 500mg. I progressed my way up over the years to 600, 750, 1050, and 1250. Honestly, I could not tell the difference between 400 and 750.....it wasn't until i hit a G that it was a whole new world for me. But now that I'm off permanently, I can say with a straight face that I wish I never went above 450-500mg or possibly never started at all. and i always questioned my diet and training before going up as well.

~Alc
 
The highest I ever went was 750 and the sides got stupid. Hair falling out like crazy. I stick to 500 but I'm on all the time. I still cycle stacks on top and then have to deal with those sides but that's not so bad. I've heard the climb is about saturated receptors and I've heard guys argue that as you get bigger you need to dose bigger for the additional body mass. Whatever, just up each cycle until it feels right I guess. If that's 250 then stay with it. If you do more and get lots of sides it's not worth it.
 
swole said:
Agreed. Not throwing anyone under the bus here, but I think a lot of people use higher amounts of gear to compensate for what they lack in training and diet routines. Granted some people simply need higher amounts. One of my friends weighed a good 160lbs and needed three times the amount of test and EQ I was on just to get results. Nuts I tell ya!!


Ha,ha,huh,hu......You said "Nuts"......hu,huh,ha,hu.

I really miss Bevis and Butthead.
 
I'm on HRT so my Test is grade A Watson Pharmaceutical Test Cyp.
I cruise at 150mg/wk and then go up to 500-750 on cycle. Anymore gives me bad sides. 600 is my sweet spot.
 
swole said:
Agreed. Not throwing anyone under the bus here, but I think a lot of people use higher amounts of gear to compensate for what they lack in training and diet routines. Granted some people simply need higher amounts. One of my friends weighed a good 160lbs and needed three times the amount of test and EQ I was on just to get results. Nuts I tell ya!!


can you explain it with more detail???
 
GUARDIAN said:
stay low until u cant grow. :)

i think alot of people dont even try to stay at the same dose. they start off with 250mg ew and had good gains. the next cycle they are up 2 500mg ew without reason.


I agree I went up because some guys int he gym told me I needed to when I should have listened to my body!
 
dalas said:
can you explain it with more detail???

Sure.

I was on 300mg test E and 500mg EQ.

My friend was on 900mg Test E and 1500mg EQ.

He gained less than I did and weighed 160lbs.
 
swole said:
Agreed. Not throwing anyone under the bus here, but I think a lot of people use higher amounts of gear to compensate for what they lack in training and diet routines. Granted some people simply need higher amounts. One of my friends weighed a good 160lbs and needed three times the amount of test and EQ I was on just to get results. Nuts I tell ya!!


agree-- i remember i thought that way when I 1st started and all i got was bacne and a face shaped like a frisbee....now it looks like that natty :worried:
 
Always have somewhere to go. Guys who start at high dosages don't realize they're hindering future gains.
 
I agree....to me less is always more.
Nelson Montana said:
Always have somewhere to go. Guys who start at high dosages don't realize they're hindering future gains.
 
Thanks guys. I was at work all day so i couldent respond! But i think this answered alot of questions for me. I stayed low (same amount) on this my 2nd cycle as my first as i grew alot the first time. Good stuff. Thanks~
 
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