High dose Var???

[duke of earl]

Have done lots of var cycles - some var only, some with test - I've always run var at around the 50mg ED mark.....
......I'm thinking about trying a higher dose var cycle (with low dose test E ) have any of you done a high dose var cycle say more than 60-70mg ED?
( btw was thinking of doing 80mg ED)

any ideas / experiences?

 

[IronWuu]

What were you gains with 50mg ED? How long did you run it for? Sorry, no help with the higher dosages here mate. Still looking to do my first var..

 

[duke of earl]

Well with var only 50mg ED 10 weeks I gained just over 10lbs & kept all of it - my bf actually dropped a little too - I think alot of the gains were because I was stronger on it & therefore lifting heavier.
At the moment I'm doing Var 50mg ED + Test E 350mg EW am on week 9 and am up 10lbs - gonna run 16 weeks total.

 

[lawnsaver]

I did 80mg of the old IP var....I loved it!!

Just take your liver supps and drink water and you will be good to go!

 

[Macronne]

well usually var, doesnt have much influence on the body own hormone production, even if the dose was a bit high, but its not advised to be used for too long, as its toxic to the liver, and the reccommended dose is between 20-50mg/day.

I dont know why do u want to take it at 80??

Take about 0.125 mg per pound of body weight daily, will give you good results

 

[duke of earl]

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well usually var, doesnt have much influence on the body own hormone production, even if the dose was a bit high, but its not advised to be used for too long, as its toxic to the liver, and the reccommended dose is between 20-50mg/day.

I dont know why do u want to take it at 80??

Take about 0.125 mg per pound of body weight daily, will give you good results

Are you talking from experience?? What were your gains like??
I've done quite a few var cycles & anything less than 30mg ED is pointless for me - You'll find alot of people disagreeing with the 0.125mg / lb dosing - I think it's nearer 0.25mg / lb
Also Var has never done alot to my liver values ( even on a 12 weeker) so that side of things shouldn't be a problem.
Var not shutting you down is a fallacy - it will shut you down - not as fast or as much as other AS, but you still need light PCT

 

[Macronne]

Well, I have used var, before twice, once at 20mg/day, and another at 40mg/day

12 weeks isnt a long time. I am talking about more than 16 weeks, where i know a friend who used it at 14 weeks, and from what he said about blood test, that his liver values werent normal.

for me 20mg/day worked fine, of course not as 40mg/day. U will slightly feel it at 20mg/day

Anyways why do u want to higher your dose? Any specific reason?

 

[duke of earl]

Well - just thought I'd bump it up & try 75mg as.....
1. I ran it @ at 50mg ED for my last 2 cycles so wanted to see the difference @75mg
2. I've just capped 25g of the stuff so I've loads to use! (not a v good reason I know!)
3. I've never had any probs @ 50mg so figured I would be OK to at least try 75mg

 

[Anthony Starks]

Well, even at 75mg ed its going to be a hell of a lot safer than a lot of other cycles, and I would expect less sides as well. However, I still don't think you are going to pack on much weight with var alone, I never could.

 

[goldenthree]

I was using var at 80 mgs for a while, made fantastic gains I gained 10 lbs on a cut. Probably dropped 5 lbs of fat at least which means probably 15 pounds of gains. I was on accutane at the time, and my live was ok. I guess I was lucky.

 

[wootoom]

im going to a 80mg/ed dosage sooooon. so soooooon. cant wait

 

[Mavy]

Bump for you I am considering the same thing. I would never personally run var less than 40mg/day. 25mg of dbol I respond well to. But 25mg of var/day? I would rather save my money and buy cell-tech lol. I was planning on running 70 or 80 as well for 6 weeks, but I think that I may keep going with my "Extra-Strength Anavar".

If you dont know what I mean by this, its combining var+dbol in the right ratios. Its basically just var with a little bit of kick to it. Try running 50mg/var + 15mg of dbol. You wont be dissapointed.

One thing that I have learned, is that anything that anavar does I feel dbol does it better, and at about 1/3 the dosage. Especially in the strength department believe it or not. 25mg of dbol will do you better than 50mg of var, (it did for me anyways), in both strength, and gains. Keeping the dosage low like that, and I experienced zero sides from the dbol, and I am prone to most sides.

Read these threads, some good info on running "Extra Strenght Var".

I woudl say go for it, and run the two of them together. Just get the right proportions, dbol is about 3 times as potent (based on dosages i take of both vs results). 40/15 seemed to be a good ratio for me, maybe if you wanted to you could go to 50/20 or higher, just see what works for you. Read these...

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314789&highlight=Extra+strength

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=337680&highlight=Extra+strength

Mavy

 

[wootoom]

Bd is good stuff. the best i ever took. i need a bit more with Orbit but its still good stuff

 

[Lowest]

I just made up 4.5g's of var suspension. I've never run it before, but I've run some moderately heavy doses of other gear. I was thinking of trying the var by itself at 60mg/day with creatine to see how I react to it. Think that's too much? Not enough? I'm thinking of that dosage b/c I made mine at 20mg/ml, so 1ml 3x per day. I get better strength from winny than dbol, so I'm hoping var will be even better.

 

[duke of earl]

Yeah that BD Var is excellent - did really well off 40mg ED

However, I still don't think you are going to pack on much weight with var alone, I never could

Now I always run var with Test ( Test E 400mg EW this time - can't be arsed with prop) - although my first cycle was var only & I put on 10lbs & dropped a little BF! (40mg BD 10 weeks)

Extra strength var sounds pretty cool - but I'm gonna stick with test cos I wanna run the var for 10 weeks & still keep my liver nice & fresh.