High Blood Pressure Help....

[sparkie34]

I'm hoping the good bros on EF here can advised me on what to do here.


I'm running my second PH cycle and I'm two weeks in. Starting yesterday my blood pressure spiked up real high. I'm usually around 115/70 today I'm 160/100. I'm feeling it hard too. Face real hot, pressure around the eyes, tired etc... Any ideas on what I can do to lower my blood pressure without coming off the cycle? I really don't want to stop it because I'm getting huge strength gains.


Thanks for any help.

 

[Greatercow]

id stop everything right now and go see a doc !

 

[firefighter337]

Side effects from AS:
Elevated Blood Pressure

Go see a doctor. Could be nothing, But what if it is something?

 

[Beachboy6294]

I have a couple bottles of blood pressure meds for when i juice incase it get high.

 

[Varga]

Hawthornberries 1500mg a day split in 3 500mg doses should help

 

[Latamier]

It is most likely caused from the water retention. You need to start drinking about a gallon + of water a day to keep your kidneys functioning well. I would do that first and if that does not work start taking a dieuretic. My choice would be Aldactone since it is potassium sparring, or lasix. If using lasix be sure to take some extra potassium with it because it is not a potassium sparring drug. It is a loop dieuretic and as your potassium drops you will start to get cramps. The easiest way is drink more and watch your diet. Hope this helps.

 

[nzrodney]

Agree with Lats ^^. Potassium-Sparing Diuretics like Amiloride & Aldactone are probably better than front line ACE compounds for a BBer. What PH's are you on? Maybe you need to modify your chems or doses. Also increasing your cardio may help. Some AAS like Eq raises my counts by about 20 points.

 

[DMI]

Spironalactone is a good diuretic but also a potent anti-androgen, therefore will interfere with your cycle results. Stick with a dyazide diuretic and start with 12.5mg taken in the morning.

This will almost certainly be water retention that is causing your problem.

 

[sparkie34]

What PH's are you on? Maybe you need to modify your chems or doses

I'm taking Bold 200, 4 caps per day as recommended by one of their reps for my bodyweight. I'm also considering cutting the doses but I'm just starting to get huge results and would hate to cut it back.

It is most likely caused from the water retention. You need to start drinking about a gallon + of water a day to keep your kidneys functioning well.

I can do this. I will admit I'm under a gallon a day for sure.

Hawthornberries 1500mg a day split in 3 500mg doses should help

This I have an I will start on it immediately.

I have a couple bottles of blood pressure meds for when i juice incase it get high.

I have access to toporal sp? but I was affraid to take it with an oral ph.





Thanks for all the advice. This is why EF rocks!

I'll keep you all posted on how it works out for me.

 

[OMEGA]

BP on cycle is for 3 reasons
~ High Adrogen levels
~ and Estrogen Formation
~ RBC proliferation

the 3 depend on what gear your using and cause they Are PHS' we wont know what the main issue is.

For example if you ran TEST we could say your BP is tied to excess estrogen formation

 

[Burpees]

BP on cycle is for 3 reasons
~ High Adrogen levels
~ and Estrogen Formation
~ RBC proliferation

the 3 depend on what gear your using and cause they Are PHS' we wont know what the main issue is.

For example if you ran TEST we could say your BP is tied to excess estrogen formation

Nice info!

 

[BigBrothaD]

I'm hoping the good bros on EF here can advised me on what to do here.


I'm running my second PH cycle and I'm two weeks in. Starting yesterday my blood pressure spiked up real high. I'm usually around 115/70 today I'm 160/100. I'm feeling it hard too. Face real hot, pressure around the eyes, tired etc... Any ideas on what I can do to lower my blood pressure without coming off the cycle? I really don't want to stop it because I'm getting huge strength gains.


Thanks for any help.

Grab some baby aspirin and take a couple of those a day along with a couple grams of enteric coated garlic extract to thin your blood...and get off the prohormones man! it could be one derived from progesterone which could cause those effects for you and i know.

 

[sparkie34]

BP on cycle is for 3 reasons
~ High Adrogen levels
~ and Estrogen Formation
~ RBC proliferation

the 3 depend on what gear your using and cause they Are PHS' we wont know what the main issue is.

For example if you ran TEST we could say your BP is tied to excess estrogen formation

Thanks for the info. If it was excess estrogen what would you suggest. An anti-e or ?

 

[OMEGA]

Nice info!

good bros need other good bros

 

[OMEGA]

Thanks for the info. If it was excess estrogen what would you suggest. An anti-e or ?

Conservative AI use

ex: Aromasin at 10 mgs e2 or 3 d or Adex .5-1 mg e2d

 

[Burpees]

Conservative AI use

ex: Aromasin at 10 mgs e2 or 3 d or Adex .5-1 mg e2d

if doing 1mg adex e2d is working for you, wouldn't 0.25 of even 0.5 ed be better for blood levels? just wondering..

im considering cutting down the adex to 0.25 EOD (it's 0.4 ED now) and running a shit ton of natural diuretics.. I'm holding water but I think it's a bit diet/lack of cardio related and not so much E anymore..

 

[Mavafanculo]

Natural Remedies for HBP, on or off cycle:

-grape seed extract 200mg 3x daily (~ 10% drop)
-taurine 1.5 grams 2 or 3 times a day
-magnesium/potassium supplements (dont recall doses)
-lots of water
-long term vitamin C 500-1,000 mg daily (~10% drop)
-co-q10 as much as ur pocket will stand
-no salt
-hi-fiber diet (or psyillium seed husk products like metamucil)
- lose some weight

-also, anything that acts as a vasodialator, or improves endothelial (sp?) flexibility - especially if the mechanism is via the nitric oxide cycle --- iow, things like viagra/cialis/no2 workout boosters, arginine, etc

(viagra was originally investigated as a BP med)

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Use the above as a starting point for your research but dont substitute it for medical supervision if it enetrs the danger zone

 

[sparkie34]

Natural Remedies for HBP, on or off cycle:

-grape seed extract 200mg 3x daily (~ 10% drop)
-taurine 1.5 grams 2 or 3 times a day
-magnesium/potassium supplements (dont recall doses)
-lots of water
-long term vitamin C 500-1,000 mg daily (~10% drop)
-co-q10 as much as ur pocket will stand
-no salt
-hi-fiber diet (or psyillium seed husk products like metamucil)
- lose some weight

-also, anything that acts as a vasodialator, or improves endothelial (sp?) flexibility - especially if the mechanism is via the nitric oxide cycle --- iow, things like viagra/cialis/no2 workout boosters, arginine, etc

(viagra was originally investigated as a BP med)

-

Use the above as a starting point for your research but dont substitute it for medical supervision if it enetrs the danger zone

Very informative post. Thanks a ton!

 

[nzrodney]

I'm taking Bold 200, 4 caps per day as recommended by one of their reps for my bodyweight. I'm also considering cutting the doses but I'm just starting to get huge results and would hate to cut it back.

1,4 AD BOLD 200 200 characteristics:
? Direct precursor to Boldenone 1,4-androstadiene-3-one,17b-ol (Equipoise, Ganabol, Equigan, Ultragan (Boldenone undecylenate).

? 1,4 AD BOLD 200 is the dione form of Boldenone. Activated in the body by the widely distributed 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme.

? 1,4 AD BOLD 200 displays a high level of oral bioavailability.

? 1,4 AD BOLD 200 has a high anabolic effect with a moderate androgenic effect.

? 1,4 AD BOLD 200 is very low in estrogen aromatization.
? 1,4 AD BOLD 200 promotes very stable lean muscle gains.

If this is the PH you are on it is more likely that your increased BP is caused by increased RBC count. Because it does not convert easily to estrogen you should not be having issues with that & Boldenone proper is not a progesterone so no need for prolactin chems like Dostinex.