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HGH to Test run!

eyekanseayoo

eyekanseayoo

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howdyyy y'all!

so the fall has returned and another year slips away into the endless abyss we call life.
I'm looking for basics here, nothing fancy..

I'm 25 and a half years old!
5' 11"
170lbs
8-10%

I have 50 iu's waiting for me to say yes, and was already planning a simple.. 12 week test-e cycle at 500mg/wk... the 50ius is rdy to go, I will be getting more in a few weeks, my concern here is.. in order to have the best synergy from my test cycle, how many iu's do I BEGIN with..? I hear build up slowly over months, others say dive right in... If I'm going to start my test cycle on Dec. 1st.. how many ius should I be running up until, during, and after?? and what are the dosages I should be aiming for at a weekly breakdown.. let say for a grand total of 3-6 months. thankssss!
 
What are you expecting from hgh?
 
Depends on how many IU's are in each vial which varies .... either way start at 2IU for a month or 2 and if no bad sides bump it up to 3.33 etc.
 
from the hgh, I'm expecting faster recovery, more vascular look, increased mood and appetite , better sleep.. younger looking skin, sad I'm 25 but yes, I want to have great skin, especially if I'm throwing myself down the gauntlet that is a full on test cycle!
 
No need for HGH @ 25

~EZ
 
EZ_E said:
No need for HGH @ 25

~EZ
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are u certain? what's ur reasoning? because my natural decline isn't that pronounced yet?
that's exactly why I want to do it, if im doing a cycle, it just makes sense to me to have the hgh there helping my body through the changes, before and after... it's like prepping the body for an amazing transformation that the test cycle will bring, and then helping repair and soothe my nerves. id say it's the pefect time.. but then again... I'm a 25 year old male talkin...
 
Yeah not to burst ur bubble but hgh isn't really going to do all that for u now. It's not for preventative plus test is good for ur body now if u were smoking than the gh would be good for ur skin. It's ur money but ur not going to get vascular until 3-6 months of use. Plus nothing personal but I think ur smoken something. Lol.
Regardless start with 2ius for 2 weeks every two weeks add .5ius. Again it's all dependent on finances, take 5 ius per day if u can afford it. But again it will take 6 months to show the full effects.
 
endojuicedr said:
Depends on how many IU's are in each vial which varies .... either way start at 2IU for a month or 2 and if no bad sides bump it up to 3.33 etc.
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2iu ED is a pretty low dose.. Waist of money..
4iu is average dose and sides shouldn't be seen at 4..
 
Hey bro please read up a little more. Ty

endojuicedr said:
Depends on how many IU's are in each vial which varies .... either way start at 2IU for a month or 2 and if no bad sides bump it up to 3.33 etc.
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endojuicedr said:
Well it's all going to be a waste of money at 25 unless youre taking large doses with slin... but the proper way to use it is to start low and slowly increase according to tolerance. Many people get very serious sides at 4iu.
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Many people?
PLz post links of these "many" people getting "serious" sides at 4iu...
 
Well it's all going to be a waste of money at 25 unless youre taking large doses with slin... but the proper way to use it is to start low and slowly increase according to tolerance. Many people get very serious sides at 4iu.
 
endojuicedr said:
Haha please go into detail on this kid.
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No I'm not going into detail do research and you will learn more and be able to help people.

Second I am not a kid I am on this site to help people if you don't start respecting the mentors and moderators of this site YOU WILL BE BANNED!
 
endojuicedr said:
Well it's all going to be a waste of money at 25 unless youre taking large doses with slin... but the proper way to use it is to start low and slowly increase according to tolerance. Many people get very serious sides at 4iu.
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Your statement is ridiculous.

We don't discuss sin nor do we promote it's use.

Please read the rules and follow them or you will be banned!
 
Read it and then read mine.

Don't WTF me again or you are gone. Do you understand?
 
goin on 4T said:
Yeah not to burst ur bubble but hgh isn't really going to do all that for u now. It's not for preventative plus test is good for ur body now if u were smoking than the gh would be good for ur skin. It's ur money but ur not going to get vascular until 3-6 months of use. Plus nothing personal but I think ur smoken something. Lol.
Regardless start with 2ius for 2 weeks every two weeks add .5ius. Again it's all dependent on finances, take 5 ius per day if u can afford it. But again it will take 6 months to show the full effects.
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I agree with starting with 2 IUs but disagree with most everything else. First of all, if you have 8IU vials increasing by 0.5IU just doesn't make sense, you will be mixing very small amounts from an old vial with a new one which is unneccesary. This is why I said to increase based on how your hgh is dosed. GH is a slow worker and if you increase every 2 weeks you're not letting the higher dosage really take effect before you jump up again.

I don't think it's dependent on finances either, more is not better in many cases. 5IU from one brand of HGH is going to effect you alot different than 5IU from another brand(atleast a large majority of the time). You will probably notice next to no vascularity increase either.
 
goin on 4T said:
Yeah not to burst ur bubble but hgh isn't really going to do all that for u now. It's not for preventative plus test is good for ur body now if u were smoking than the gh would be good for ur skin. It's ur money but ur not going to get vascular until 3-6 months of use. Plus nothing personal but I think ur smoken something. Lol.
Regardless start with 2ius for 2 weeks every two weeks add .5ius. Again it's all dependent on finances, take 5 ius per day if u can afford it. But again it will take 6 months to show the full effects.
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I AM smoking something. good call!
the hgh isn't the main attraction , remember I said I already planned the test !
I figured if I CAN do the hgh, then why not?? right??
 
endojuicedr said:
I agree with starting with 2 IUs but disagree with most everything else. First of all, if you have 8IU vials increasing by 0.5IU just doesn't make sense, you will be mixing very small amounts from an old vial with a new one which is unneccesary. This is why I said to increase based on how your hgh is dosed. GH is a slow worker and if you increase every 2 weeks you're not letting the higher dosage really take effect before you jump up again.

I don't think it's dependent on finances either, more is not better in many cases. 5IU from one brand of HGH is going to effect you alot different than 5IU from another brand(atleast a large majority of the time). You will probably notice next to no vascularity increase either.
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Well that is a nice answer except what you have said is your opinion. I have many times mixed emptied vial then added more to syringe from another vial. And this happens regardless of 8iu or 10iu vials. If you think .5ius is a pain how about .33! Lol now that's funny.
If you read enough you would know the reason to ladder up your dose is for your body to reduce sides. Lol not to see how 3.33 works. Lmao. You crack me up!
Please really read up, learn then speak.
 
remember the idea of MY using the hgh is primarily as a support mechanism to prepare my body before/after my cycle..
pretty much just a sense of overall well-being would be ideal, especially with a heavy TEST load up. I'm not expecting the hgh to add lbs of muscle, that's what the test is for.. so what I'm getting at I guess is.. IS it not a rational idea to use hgh before during and after a cycle , no matter what age, to ease some of the workload the body has to go through? from what I've been researching... it is completely logical for someone in my position to use it.. hence I am not using it for muscle gain.
 
It is good for the joints the best is to take the GH for 2 months before you start the test that way the synergies are at their best. Too many times people bulk up their strength faster than their joints and tear something.
 
goin on 4T said:
It is good for the joints the best is to take the GH for 2 months before you start the test that way the synergies are at their best. Too many times people bulk up their strength faster than their joints and tear something.
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thanks, that's more of the general reason I was inquiring a layout for the GH usage. it's not about just adding something to cycle, like.. it just makes sense to help your body before it gets a total shock.. and then easeeeee it through the post cycle, I think once it's all said and done I'll have some great feedback to share with everyone. I will be keeping detailed journals of every aspect of the venture.
 
goin on 4T said:
Well that is a nice answer except what you have said is your opinion. I have many times mixed emptied vial then added more to syringe from another vial. And this happens regardless of 8iu or 10iu vials. If you think .5ius is a pain how about .33! Lol now that's funny.
If you read enough you would know the reason to ladder up your dose is for your body to reduce sides. Lol not to see how 3.33 works. Lmao. You crack me up!
Please really read up, learn then speak.
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10 divided by 3 = 3.33 which is the most logical step up from 2IU if you're using 10IU vials. If you dose correctly then no you don't have to mix old and new vials.

I'm the one that told him to ladder up the dose, your reading comprehension and math could use some work.
 
endojuicedr said:
10 divided by 3 = 3.33 which is the most logical step up from 2IU if you're using 10IU vials. If you dose correctly then no you don't have to mix old and new vials.

I'm the one that told him to ladder up the dose, your reading comprehension and math could use some work.
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What is 8/3.3? Lol you better take off your shoes
There is nothing wrong with mixing two vials in a syringe or anywhere else when they are only a few days old.
You told him to ladder up in a month or two, I told him to ladder up every two weeks, big difference. Also your reason was to see how it's working out, when the real reason you ladder up is to avoid serious carpel tunnel that could cause you one to lower their dosage so carpel is releived. You are lacking in common sense, judgement and following the rules. Yet you continue to post. ???
 
goin on 4T said:
What is 8/3.3? As you know I specifically said to jump from 2 to the next level based on how the hgh was dosed, 3.33 if it is a 10iu vial.
Lol you better take off your shoes
There is nothing wrong with mixing two vials in a syringe or anywhere else when they are only a few days old. It is easier not to.
You told him to ladder up in a month or two, I told him to ladder up every two weeks, big difference. It's basically the exact same thing. Going up from 2 to 3 in a month or 2 to 3.33 for example is essentially the exact same thing, you are just tryin to nit pick and start an argument that doesn't exist.
Also your reason was to see how it's working out, when the real reason you ladder up is to avoid serious carpel tunnel that could cause you one to lower their dosage so carpel is releived. Yeah increase the dosage if there are no problematic sides.
You are lacking in common sense, judgement and following the rules. Yet you continue to post. ??? You posted almost exactly the same recommendations as I did then you called me out saying I needed to research which made zero sense, I have not broken any rules either, I know exactly what can and cannot be talked about. Using high amounts of HGH goes hand in hand with s usage and that's all I said.
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"Higher than 10ius of HGH daily is not encouraged for the average trainee and even for the elite trainee until much research has been done as going this high will require T4 supplementation and very often incorporating insulin since the only reason to go higher than 10ius of HGH is for forced bulking."

Copied directly from AAP's hgh user manual.
 
endojuicedr said:
"Higher than 10ius of HGH daily is not encouraged for the average trainee and even for the elite trainee until much research has been done as going this high will require T4 supplementation and very often incorporating insulin since the only reason to go higher than 10ius of HGH is for forced bulking."

Copied directly from AAP's hgh user manual.
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Who said anything about greater than 10IU's?
Stop taking the drugs man. They are not good for your brains.
 
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What is 8/3.3? As you know I specifically said to jump from 2 to the next level based on how the hcg was dosed, 3.33 if it is a 10iu vial. What does HCG have to do with HGH, again please don't give any advice where you don't have a solid knowledge of the specific subject HCG does not equal HGH!
Lol you better take off your shoes
There is nothing wrong with mixing two vials in a syringe or anywhere else when they are only a few days old. It is easier not to. Its also easier not have to deal with someone who has done little if any research and is giving bogus information!
You told him to ladder up in a month or two, I told him to ladder up every two weeks, big difference. It's basically the exact same thing.Its basically the same thing? 2 weeks is the same as two months? wow just stop and go away you have no idea what you are talking about for the third time!
Going up from 2 to 3 in a month or 2 to 3.33 for example is essentially the exact same thing, you are just tryin to nit pick and start an argument that doesn't exist. Again you cant read or comprehend, I said go up .5IUs not 1IU not 2IU's specifically only go up .5IUs. Wow!
Also your reason was to see how it's working out , when the real reason you ladder up is to avoid serious carpel tunnel that could cause you one to lower their dosage so carpel is releived. Yeah increase the dosage if there are no problematic sides.
You are lacking in common sense, judgement and following the rules. Yet you continue to post. ??? You posted almost almost? you are so loose with the word almost it isn't even close this isn't hand gernades these are drugs. exactly the same recommendations as I did then you called me out saying I needed to research which made zero sense, I have not broken any rules either Yes you recomended he use slin or don't use HGH at all and that is against the rules, you also disrespected members of this board and myself an associate of this board both of those are rules that you broke. , I know exactly what can and cannot be talked about. Using high amounts of HGH goes hand in hand with s usage and that's all I said. Go back and read what you said about slin, Good luck and please stop posting about things you are just learning. We appreciate your help but we just don't need to give people missinformation.
 
lol. this got interesting.. not only am i gonna take 10 iu's a day, but in going to do it in my rectum!
thanks for all the insight guys, constructive criticism is always great, so u guys who have been corrected, appreciate it. I appreciate it for you!
 
goin on 4T said:
Who said anything about greater than 10IU's?
Stop taking the drugs man. They are not good for your brains.
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If you took the time to actually read the thread you would see that I said the only way that HGH would be very beneficial to a 25 year old is if they were forced bulking with large doses of HGH and slin, which is left to pros, obviously was never recommended to the OP.
 
goin on 4T said:
Quote posted by goin on 4T
What is 8/3.3? As you know I specifically said to jump from 2 to the next level based on how the hcg was dosed, 3.33 if it is a 10iu vial. What does HCG have to do with HGH, again please don't give any advice where you don't have a solid knowledge of the specific subject HCG does not equal HGH!
Lol you better take off your shoes
There is nothing wrong with mixing two vials in a syringe or anywhere else when they are only a few days old. It is easier not to. Its also easier not have to deal with someone who has done little if any research and is giving bogus information!
You told him to ladder up in a month or two, I told him to ladder up every two weeks, big difference. It's basically the exact same thing.Its basically the same thing? 2 weeks is the same as two months? wow just stop and go away you have no idea what you are talking about for the third time!
Going up from 2 to 3 in a month or 2 to 3.33 for example is essentially the exact same thing, you are just tryin to nit pick and start an argument that doesn't exist. Again you cant read or comprehend, I said go up .5IUs not 1IU not 2IU's specifically only go up .5IUs. Wow!
Also your reason was to see how it's working out , when the real reason you ladder up is to avoid serious carpel tunnel that could cause you one to lower their dosage so carpel is releived. Yeah increase the dosage if there are no problematic sides.
You are lacking in common sense, judgement and following the rules. Yet you continue to post. ??? You posted almost almost? you are so loose with the word almost it isn't even close this isn't hand gernades these are drugs. exactly the same recommendations as I did then you called me out saying I needed to research which made zero sense, I have not broken any rules either Yes you recomended he use slin or don't use HGH at all and that is against the rules, you also disrespected members of this board and myself an associate of this board both of those are rules that you broke. , I know exactly what can and cannot be talked about. Using high amounts of HGH goes hand in hand with s usage and that's all I said. Go back and read what you said about slin, Good luck and please stop posting about things you are just learning. We appreciate your help but we just don't need to give people missinformation.
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So you started this whole argument over the difference between going up in 0.5 IU increments in 2 weeks compared to 1IU increcements in a month or 2????? Unreal.
 
First of all its not an argument. Its me helping you understand HGH better. My instuction has not been about .5IUs. However since you think it has, and you have wasted too much of my time I am done trying to help someone who says one thing in a thread and then denies saying it in another. You either are insane or have some serious comprehension issues. Either way I hope you are able to get some help and please stop giving people misinformation. Its not just in this thread you do it quite frequently. Obviously why you were bombed...
 
You just cant stop can you? wow
 
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