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hgh/slin/deca/var--what to expect?

lwgy

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i want to run a test free cycle. im thinking about:
hgh; 4 iu 5on/2off; 6 months
deca; 200 mgs; 1-12
var; 40mgs; 1-8
slin; slowly work my way up to 7iu after workout only; 2weeks on/3off
creatine ; 10g ed

ive done searches on a number of different boards but i cant find anyone who has done something similiar. so i have no idea what to expect. i would probably only run the slin twice during the first 12 weeks. the reason why i dont want to run test is because i dont like the sides, and i want to see what i can get without it. but i am considering running test prop 50mg ed, only during the 2 weeks when i run the slin. i remember realgains saying that most of the sides from test come after 2 weeks.

what type of gains should i expect on this? i know everyone is different but im looking for a general idea.

im 29,5'11, 188lbs, 16%bf. lifting for almost 5 years.

thanks bros.
 
At 16% bodyfat I would not use insulin. My advice is to be as lean as possible when starting insulin. Spend some time dieting down on the var and deca for a couple of months. When you get under 10% start introducing the insulin. Honestly though, at this point you shouldn't need juice to make gains. 188 @ 16%... you should be able to put on a fair amount of aditional size naturally in the next year if you apply yourself, train hard and eat properly. Otherwise, while not cost effective, 200 mg of deca, with 40 mg of var and 4 iu's of hgh a day should yield quality gains with no side effects. I would exect slow, but steady gains in lbm, with the possibility of reduced bodyfat even on a high cal diet.
 
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