Hgh dosing muscle mass

[Craigydar]

Hi
Hope this is ok in this section

I've been doing anabolics few years of and on . I've read hgh is permanent gains .

However dosing seems abit of a nitemare as it's so expensive

I have Ghrp and mod to hand anyway

Has anyone got a descent protocol

29 198lbs 5"11 10% bf

I can get hgh pens 36iu (not sure I can say make on here) apparently pharma grade

Goals are fat loss and muscle gains
I'll be cycling anabolics also throught the duration

 

[Elvia1023]

Hi
Hope this is ok in this section

I've been doing anabolics few years of and on . I've read hgh is permanent gains .

However dosing seems abit of a nitemare as it's so expensive

I have Ghrp and mod to hand anyway

Has anyone got a descent protocol

29 198lbs 5"11 10% bf

I can get hgh pens 36iu (not sure I can say make on here) apparently pharma grade

Goals are fat loss and muscle gains
I'll be cycling anabolics also throught the duration

No gains are permanent. A good peptide protocol is just as effective as HGH usage. I am on 5IU HGH now (just for a few weeks) but I prefer peptides.

Protocol is quite simple.... 100mcg mod and 100mcg ghrp injected 3 times daily. Make sure you have at least 4 hours between injections. No need to get 36iu pins but sure they would be amazing but totally unneeded for your stats! You just need to improve diet, training and run some good cycles for your goals.

 

[Craigydar]

No gains are permanent. A good peptide protocol is just as effective as HGH usage. I am on 5IU HGH now (just for a few weeks) but I prefer peptides.

Protocol is quite simple.... 100mcg mod and 100mcg ghrp injected 3 times daily. Make sure you have at least 4 hours between injections. No need to get 36iu pins but sure they would be amazing but totally unneeded for your stats! You just need to improve diet, training and run some good cycles for your goals.

Thanks
Well it's just that it increases muscle cells as anabolics do not .
It's just you hear varied opinions from 8iu 3 x a week to 25iu a day . It's crazy mate

I know what your saying but was going to give it a go that's all . Maybe use peptides like I was (same protocol you said ) and wanted to add hgh to get benefits

 

[Elvia1023]

Thanks
Well it's just that it increases muscle cells as anabolics do not .
It's just you hear varied opinions from 8iu 3 x a week to 25iu a day . It's crazy mate

I know what your saying but was going to give it a go that's all . Maybe use peptides like I was (same protocol you said ) and wanted to add hgh to get benefits

If you want to use them together then inject your peps as mentioned. Then 10 mins later inject 2IU HGH and that will ride the natural pulse from the peptides. Doing it this way will make your HGH more effective and make the most of the low doses.

Trust me though the huge amount you pay for the HGH will be better spent on good food, a good coach and good anabolics.

 

[Craigydar]

If you want to use them together then inject your peps as mentioned. Then 10 mins later inject 2IU HGH and that will ride the natural pulse from the peptides. Doing it this way will make your HGH more effective and make the most of the low doses.

Trust me though the huge amount you pay for the HGH will be better spent on good food, a good coach and good anabolics.

Yes food and anabolics first I agree .
So maybe just 2iu hgh a day after first pep shot and peptides twice more in the day ? Or 2iu hgh after every pep shot?

 

[_UNIVERSAL_]

The muscle growth from GH is from increased IGF-1 levels. If you are using a low dose of GH (around 2iu), it will take awhile for you to really see gains in muscle mass. So a better protocol for muscle growth with GH would be 10iu 3x weekly, rather than 2iu daily.

Peptides will give you quicker results than GH. I prefer peptides to GH as well.

 

[Craigydar]

The muscle growth from GH is from increased IGF-1 levels. If you are using a low dose of GH (around 2iu), it will take awhile for you to really see gains in muscle mass. So a better protocol for muscle growth with GH would be 10iu 3x weekly, rather than 2iu daily.

Peptides will give you quicker results than GH. I prefer peptides to GH as well.

I see , the theory of using both crossed my mind .
9iu hgh 3x week
Peptides daily 3x day mod and Ghrp

Would this see muscle gains in theory?

Along with cycling anabolics and maybe insulin on bulk cycles

 

[Craigydar]

Also during a cutting cycle then into bulking cycle would it be best to carry on same protocol or say cutting to smaller daily jabs then go into a bulk and change to 3x week 9iu jabs ?

 

[Elvia1023]

Yes food and anabolics first I agree .
So maybe just 2iu hgh a day after first pep shot and peptides twice more in the day ? Or 2iu hgh after every pep shot?

2IU HGH is more for fat loss, sense of well being and anti aging. It will also make you look better when using aas due to it's effects on body composition but it will not pack on huge muscle. As universal mentioned a larger dose would be needed. Although 2IU pharm grade HGH is a different thing to 2IU Chinese generic. It's more the weekly amount that's important but as U stated I prefer eod larger dosing when mass is your primary goal.

I need to know the total amount of HGH you have to write you out a protocol. If it is 36IU you are wasting your time as you need more. You hear guys say you need 6 months for results on HGH and that is nonsense. You see results in 1 day and in 1 month you can change a lot. But at a lower dose with size being your goal you would need a good few months to make significant changes. I would recommend something like...

9IU eod combined with cjc no dac and ghrp-2

100mcg cjc no dac and ghrp-2 then 10 mins later 3IU HGH. Do this 3 times in the day ensuring at least 4 hours in between shots.

On your off day dose the peps at the same dose 3 times daily.

It doesn't really make much of a difference if you are cutting or bulking (diet will dictate that). Although it's good to change with up so if cutting I would go with an ed dose... either pre workout or pre bed.

Insulin I don't really like recommending for obvious reasons. It's perfectly safe and many things people take (tren, dnp, orals etc) are much worst. But in the wrong hands slin can be fairly dangerous. Plus it is very detailed and would be best for another time. Plus you do not need slin yet... try this first and see how it goes. Slin can come later

 

[Craigydar]

2IU HGH is more for fat loss, sense of well being and anti aging. It will also make you look better when using aas due to it's effects on body composition but it will not pack on huge muscle. As universal mentioned a larger dose would be needed. Although 2IU pharm grade HGH is a different thing to 2IU Chinese generic. It's more the weekly amount that's important but as U stated I prefer eod larger dosing when mass is your primary goal.

I need to know the total amount of HGH you have to write you out a protocol. If it is 36IU you are wasting your time as you need more. You hear guys say you need 6 months for results on HGH and that is nonsense. You see results in 1 day and in 1 month you can change a lot. But at a lower dose with size being your goal you would need a good few months to make significant changes. I would recommend something like...

9IU eod combined with cjc no dac and ghrp-2

100mcg cjc no dac and ghrp-2 then 10 mins later 3IU HGH. Do this 3 times in the day ensuring at least 4 hours in between shots.

On your off day dose the peps at the same dose 3 times daily.

It doesn't really make much of a difference if you are cutting or bulking (diet will dictate that). Although it's good to change with up so if cutting I would go with an ed dose... either pre workout or pre bed.

Insulin I don't really like recommending for obvious reasons. It's perfectly safe and many things people take (tren, dnp, orals etc) are much worst. But in the wrong hands slin can be fairly dangerous. Plus it is very detailed and would be best for another time. Plus you do not need slin yet... try this first and see how it goes. Slin can come later

I will buy more mist definatly pharma grade genetropin .

Yes you confirmed what I thought really

9iu m w f I was thinking when bulking
With peptides . I was gunna do the 9iu in one go post workout however ? As apposed to 3 x day . I'd run peps 3x day any way

As I'm cutting now I'm on 3iu 10 mins after first pep shot in mornings hour before breakfast . Usually do cardio
Then peps rest day


What you think of this ?