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mrdeeznuts
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Is there such a thing, I've seen them offered but don't know anything about them. anyone have any input/info on these?
HGH capsules?
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mrdeeznuts
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bump for vets!
mrdeeznuts
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kbrkbr said:
thanks for the input. maybe its listed as a capsule but is used for powder conversion, instead of coming in a vial.
juicedmick
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Really, thats interesting.kbrkbr said:
abomb
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Im starting month number 3 @ 3iu ed. I was taking it eod. Right now I'm thinking ALL hGH is overrated. Seen some decent fat loss, but nothing too extreme. Maybe things will pick up this next 3 months. Honestly I think I should have spent my money on AAS.
You tried to tell me didn't you drr. Live and learn I guess.
And pill form hGH? No way Jose.
You tried to tell me didn't you drr. Live and learn I guess.
And pill form hGH? No way Jose.
mrdeeznuts
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drrman said:
i've been researching it all day and agree. i saw someone offered on one list but later was taken off. just was trying to see the scoop on this.
Cauliflower Ear
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a bomb said:
in the bodybuilding case...i think it is overated unless runn at reall high dosages...i have heard that some heavy bodybuilder run like 10 iu a day...3 separate injections...but for guys that are using it for recovery it really works..helped my knee heal
eliteforce
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there have been supplement companies making some stuff in capsule form and calling it 'HGH' but it's not the same chem that as jintropen, serostim, etc. just some misleading advertising
a bomb said:
hGH is certainly effective, but it is weight dependent. A small person requires a lot less than a large person, although people who sell it state that just 1iu per day before bed will remove wrinkles, increase muscle mass, lower bodyfat and help you swim the English channel no matter who you are.
Some of that hype does happen and is clearly noticeable with a change in skin thickness and the increased growth speed of finger nails. What's not so easily noticeable at that daily amount are the other desireable characteristics.
The original hGH studies evaluted groups of men who were given higher amounts of hGH over a 6 month period than any hGH salesman tells you to take. The original figure is about .1iu/kilo. (I don't have the report in front of me, but that's what I back-figured from my requirement after reading the report.)
That equals 10iu/day for a 220# man.
In 6 months the study demonstrated up to a 14% body fat loss and a 9% muscle growth with no change in diet.
The hGH pill pushers use these same stats to explain how hGH can benefit. What they don't say is that the product must be injected subcutaneously just like in those studies, so what they state is truth. It's just not suitable to their product.
The lowest price I've found for hGH is about $10.25/iu
Multiply that x 10/day x 6 months = $17,220
That's some cycle.
I've taken 3-4iu/day for months and noticed some nice skin changes and fast growing finger nails. Possibly that signifies other desireable qualities, but I didn't notice fat loss more than my diet changes gave me.
I didn't have a mood enhancement(I'm happy most of the time anyhow), or benefit from improved sleep(I sleep well), or gain an increased sex drive or a firmer 'Wally.'
Overrated? Probably not, as long as the amount is taken according to the original studies for people older than 40.
Older guys can see a change with less, because a drop happens just like age-related testosterone loss occurs. A little goes a long way when there isn't much to begin with.
Guys in their 20s and early 30s are mostly still hGH high.
I gained more noticeable muscle hardness and increased muscle size over the past two weeks while on a clean, high protein, med carb, low fat diet with heavy daily workouts, than I noticed while on hGH for months.
There's definitely a benefit in taking hGH, but just how much benefit will occur with 10% of the original study I haven't found documented anywhere.
I can clearly document my wallet getting 14% leaner.
Mike
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txmike said:
according to what you wrote : 1iu/kilo = 100iu/day for 220# man ...not 10iu/day.
(220lbs divided by 2.2 = 100kilos X 1iu per kilo a day = 100iu/day)
BTW you can buy jino's for about $3.50/iu (or better sometimes)
Legit retailers sell average quantities from $12-$20/iu.
Some prices are coming down since the Chinese Jintropin hit the market, but I haven't seen that product sell for under $5/iu and I questioned that source.
$2 - $3.50/iu? I'm interested, but what's the brand and how sure are you of your source?
hGH fakes are just as common as AAS fakes.
Would you send me info?
Thanks,
Mike
Some prices are coming down since the Chinese Jintropin hit the market, but I haven't seen that product sell for under $5/iu and I questioned that source.
$2 - $3.50/iu? I'm interested, but what's the brand and how sure are you of your source?
hGH fakes are just as common as AAS fakes.
Would you send me info?
Thanks,
Mike
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txmike said:
by golly you're right! ...there is a DOT there
...my mistake
...sorry bout that
...really ought to wear my specs huh
chazk
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i did a exp with gh a few years back it was more exp back then i had 100ius did 2 iu's a day for 50 days. just when i though i started to see results my supply ended . i was 25 when i did it almost 5 years ago. to be honest i noticed better muscle gains and results with 200mgs of test and 200 mgs of deca todays ug lab prices test is like 25$ for 10cc and deca 30$ for 10cc while gh is now around 2$ a iu so dollar for dollar 200$ for gh vs 55$ for the deca and test . I got better results for 1/4 of the price with test and deca vs the 100iu of gh. I did the low dose cycle of test and deca right after the gh so I could compare the two. I did notice more fat loss with the gh around my waiste line but not enough to justify 4 times the price.
things have changed in the bodybuilding arena for us amatures the due to raw powder being so cheap ass really have come down in price while gh is also being made generic by china labs but the price still has not come down cheap enough for me to use it again.
things have changed in the bodybuilding arena for us amatures the due to raw powder being so cheap ass really have come down in price while gh is also being made generic by china labs but the price still has not come down cheap enough for me to use it again.
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drrman said:
hey hey now
...this sounds like sourcing to me ...LOL
...didn't you read the sticky drrman???
...GAWD!!!
txmike said:
Sounds like you were dealing with satch when he was around.. $5/iu is an assrape especialy for Jintropin..
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mrdeeznuts said:
save you money and buy REAL pharm grade 191aa injectable HGH.
ItalianMuscle27 said:
I bought from a respected pharmaceutical rep who knows the product well.
The price I obtained was the lowest I found through legit medical channels for the volume I was getting. He liked to reassure me that he wasn't making a substantial profit either. That's usually a red flag to me when a salesman says he isn't making any money with what he's selling.
However, he provided a lot of information, so that made it helpful and it was the first time I injected myself with anything.
The prices you're quoting I could only find through scammer channels. It's great that you have some solid product and that price. I couldn't get it.
I also wasn't getting the results he claimed I should be getting, so I thought I either had bad product or something else was up. I studied on it and discovered that for someone my size I'd have to take almost 15iu/day to equal the original study amounts.
When I presented him with that information, he told me that he would be willing to get the manufacturer to get a special just for me to try what the original study suggested. That red flag did it for me and I stopped ordering the product. I did take him up on the offer to learn what this special discount would be. He didn't come through on that one.
I'm a trusting guy. I've been scammed in life and it sucks. I hope it doesn't happen again, but at least I don't live the life of the scammer.
The real irony here is that he is the reason I searched out and found EF.
In the month I've been here I've found more good information that has helped me from some decent people, who have also hooked me up with products that have saved me a lot of money.
On the other side of every scam is something better waiting to show up.
Mike
