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what are people's opinions on using HGH along with a full gear cycle at the same time?
Any advice is reccomended
Any advice is reccomended
HGH and gear
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It depends on many factors.
What are your stats?
What are your goals?
What are your stats?
What are your goals?
infraredline
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Using gh along with aas is a very good idea, you are going to maximize the effectiveness of both hormones by doing so, no need to be stupid like the pros an take 10-12ius a day though, 4iu a day is more then enough, you are going to need to run it for 6months to maximize it though
Texas Monster
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Makes a great addition to the cycle if you are looking to get freaking huge.....then when you go into pct you will still be making gains.
infraredline
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I would recommend some ghrp-6 and some mod grf for a bit afterwards to kickstart your natty gh again (this is not very common right now but I feel it is important and will begin to catch on) and the only sides are acromegaly at very high doses but at 4ius all that will happen is you will have higher energy levels and increased collagen synthesis
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ALIN
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I know HGH works far better overall when its combined with a solid AAS cycle.
Lol.....you mean 20-30iu a day.
infraredline
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Wow is it really that much? if so thats ridiculous, I spoke with a pro and he said he took 12
Texas Monster
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Yeah some of the pros run up to 20 ius a day...............but some pay the price hard with that bloated GH gut
infraredline
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It does that's why I recommended you use some ghrp-6 and mod grf after your last day of gh to get your natural gh started up again
That's ridiculous honestly I don't know where some people get these ideas from that these ridiculous doses are a good idea
Really why don't you post up those studies that show it does?
Telling him to add GHRP-6 after runing HGH is like telling someone who just leaned out to have McDonalds every night before bed.
ballslee
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well that was a hilarious metaphor. im curious about this, I have read most people's natural GH does not shut down whatsoever unless your dosages get near nighttime. hence why they reccommend early morning dosages (to maximize your body's dosage at night, and then another dose in the AM).
Although, I have stopped HGH before and did notice quite a bit of lethargy and wanted to sleep way longer each day. but nothing too serious.
so i would love to be enlightened on what is the current thought on ceasing HGH use.
infraredline
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There are none it's based on anecdotal evidence and witnessing others do so, this is a very new idea but just think just, taking exogenous hgh causes your bodies own production to shut down resulting in a form of shutdown from an hgh perspective, you could think of The peptides as the serm of hgh they tell your body to produce more of its own natural gh again, the peptides function as a pct for hgh eliminating the rebound effect you can get from your body not producing its own
I have. And every six months or do I stop hgh and get bloods drawn including my natty igf levels and there is no shut down effect.
So for my you're theory is wrong. Hence there are no studies that back you're theory. Which is why I tell people this is false information.
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I take 7 on 0 off and I have never had an issue with natty hgh levels when having blood work done. It's just for people who people who can't afford daily gh.
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infraredline
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Thank you and no I have not i only use peptides not synthetic hgh but my buddy did synthetic gh (he was 24 at the time) and he got bloods done before and after gh and he showed suppression and was getting a bad rebound effect so I had him run ghrp-6 and mod grf and sure enough his levels fixed and his new blood test (done while on the peptides) showed gh well above normal levels, we now only buy from this source for peptides since we know it is not bunk, we went back again after he went off the peptides and his levels were actually slightly higher then before he did the synthetic gh
And sure enough!
LOL
Anecdotal evedence at its best.
Well my eveidence is that it would have rebounded on its own. As mine and countless others have found out. Not just on this board but on the two other boards as well.
How long after the he stoped running the HGH was the first test?
" the second test?
What was his regimine on GH 7 on 0 off?
LOL
Anecdotal evedence at its best.
Well my eveidence is that it would have rebounded on its own. As mine and countless others have found out. Not just on this board but on the two other boards as well.
How long after the he stoped running the HGH was the first test?
" the second test?
What was his regimine on GH 7 on 0 off?
infraredline
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Look bro different people react differently to everything that's the beauty of the human body no one is alike so just because something didn't happen to you doesn't mean it won't happen to someone else and personally I'd rather have an insurance plan anyways just in case cause chances are most people don't get bloods done to make sure it doesn't happen
The test done before gh was done just to see how his levels were in general and they were starting to show decline, the test done after he went off gh was 2 months later an after hearing him bitching about not making any gains, gaining body fat, and feelin like shit in general I decided it was time for a blood test and it showed him lower then before he started the gh, the test done while on peptides was after 2 weeks of them, and the final test was done 1 week after discontinuing peptides, he followed a 7 on 0 off protocol like you and was dosing 4iu a day
infraredline
I asked you all those questions not for the answers but to see what you would say.
I chalk this one up to trolling.
A lot of trollers on this board as of late!
I asked you all those questions not for the answers but to see what you would say.
I chalk this one up to trolling.
A lot of trollers on this board as of late!
Texas Monster
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So would the best way to run HGH and peptides would be in alternating cycles.
Most HGH kits come in packs of 100ius. So at 4-5 ius a day with a 5 on 2 off scheme would put you at 4-5 weeks with GH.
Then you could swtich over to some igf-lr3 and some ghrp-6 for the next 5-6 weeks.
Or is it just best to run the HGH for 6 months on then take a break? How long would that break be?
Most HGH kits come in packs of 100ius. So at 4-5 ius a day with a 5 on 2 off scheme would put you at 4-5 weeks with GH.
Then you could swtich over to some igf-lr3 and some ghrp-6 for the next 5-6 weeks.
Or is it just best to run the HGH for 6 months on then take a break? How long would that break be?
infraredline
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Ok bro if you say so but as you will see I have always recommended 4ius a day for 6 months though, you can go look at my other posts and you will see I have always done so in the few posts I've made regarding gh
ballslee
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I would not just run one month of the GH @texasmonster
but it would be interesting to see you results with that.
In my opinion tho, you will spend just as much buying all that shit as you will on GH, so why not just run the GH.
i can afford 7 on, 0 off @goin on 4T....so you would recommend switching to this? For some reason, I feel like my sleeping patterns get readjusted after having the one day off but could be just mental. I have been running GH for about 6 months right now. I am running 5IU a day....
but it would be interesting to see you results with that.
In my opinion tho, you will spend just as much buying all that shit as you will on GH, so why not just run the GH.
i can afford 7 on, 0 off @goin on 4T....so you would recommend switching to this? For some reason, I feel like my sleeping patterns get readjusted after having the one day off but could be just mental. I have been running GH for about 6 months right now. I am running 5IU a day....
There is no benefit in 5 on 2 off and all it does is hinder your gains. IMHO
You should run 7 on 0 off for 6 months.
I have run IGF and GH at the same time also.
GHRP-6 is a completely different animal as it creates a tremendous increase in appetite, its very dificult to use and usual only run during a bulk.
infraredline
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No no, with ghrp-6 you run cjc 1295 with no DAC (or known as mod grf) but yes the gh for 6 months is the best, keep in mind gh is a long term investment but it will help you keep the gains you make on cycle, what I'm saying is do the 6 months and then run a 6 week gh pct of the ghrp and cjc no DAC but mr smarty pants over here has diagnosed me as a troll to argue his point so that must make him right, right? Haha
GHRP-6/2 Are shitty peptides IMHO. They fuck with your blood glucose, they cause water retention. Much better shit out there like Ipamorelin and Sermorelin ect..
infraredline
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I have been wondering about sermorelin seems to be promising what would dosing be like with it? and ipam is great, but you are right I do have some water retention right now from the ghrp-6, nothing to serious but definitely there
You don't need PCT. That is what is the waste.
GHRP is crap.
I say you are trolling because of your answers.
Yes I believe you are.
infraredline either way you have your beliefs and your convictions and whether or not I agree with you I respect them and you for stating them.
infraredline
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I disagree I have seen extremely good results with ghrp-6 in my current run but like burnthiscorpse said there are more "clean" peps out there an I will definitely be researching sermorelin
Now I can assure you I am not trolling, not even exactly sure what that is, but you are entitled to an opinion and I respect that
Well atleast you are respectable I give you props and respect you for that
Mackdaddy88
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I'm 96kg
Bf% 13
Will be running 4ius along with
Winstrol and test 400
Anavar and tren ace
Will last me 6 months
Opinions?
Bf% 13
Will be running 4ius along with
Winstrol and test 400
Anavar and tren ace
Will last me 6 months
Opinions?
infraredline
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Seriously bro this thread ended a week ago, like goinon4t said make your own and the community would be more then happy to help
Mackdaddy88
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I started this topic....
Jigga14
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Hahaha OP gets kicked out of his own thread after it gets hijacked by vetrans.
But humour aside, running hgh during and after ur cycle should be fine, might help solidify gains. Hit up 4T tho he's the expert, assuming he lets u back into your thread.
infraredline
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He actually was the one to start the topic lol
His post made it look like he was trying to hijack the thread though
Yeah I was just messing with him on my last post.
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Please right that correctly bro. Show proposed number of weeks each and mg per week using.
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Mackdaddy88
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Running Winnie for 4 weeks at 50mg tabs with the test 400 at 1ml twice a week
Then same with var at 50mg for 4 weeks with the tren ace at 1ml eod. Then back to Winnie for repeat and then the var
Totalling 16weeka with the gear
The HGH ill be running 8iu eod for the duration of 6 months..
Opinions please !
Then same with var at 50mg for 4 weeks with the tren ace at 1ml eod. Then back to Winnie for repeat and then the var
Totalling 16weeka with the gear
The HGH ill be running 8iu eod for the duration of 6 months..
Opinions please !
That is horible.
Still writen incorrectly. ML don't mean anything
Please write like this:
1-14 Test 400mg/wk
1-4 winny 50mg
5-8 anavar 50mg
5-8 tren ace (mg per week?)
9-12 winny 50mg
13-16 anavar 50mg
13-16 tren ace(mg per week?)
Is that what you meant?
Please start a new thread so because all that other stuff has cluttered up this thread.
Mackdaddy88
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The last months ill be cycling through an ECA stack with the 8ius
*write
Did you see this kid wants to do 16 weeks of Orals?
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So you think a 16 week oral cycle is ok if you switch up the Orals?
Do you know what dialysis is? Look it up. You will have liver and kidney failure with this cycle.
Have you read anything on Orals?
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