Hey Mustang or anyone with knowledge and experience

[Mike P.T.]

ok so im weak. i cant help it. especially since im here so much. dammit and im usually not influenced easily but cant take it anymore. i know i was planning on not juicing until spring time but i cant take it anymore. i wanna start my leaning out diet in jan. i mean, i can drop weight really good and it be mostly fat weight as well but i wanna do it gradually this time around while still building lean muscle. what cycle would u think suits me best. before you laugh i wanna let you know that i am a light juicer. i respond pretty well at low doses, and at 233 at 5'10 (ehhkkk 15% BF though.) at 21 years old im pretty happy with my size already. i was thinking of either

1)

250mg sus every five days along with liquidex equivalent dose at .5mg every other day (i want to block estrogen as much as possible during this phase. i dont want it completely elimated either just alot taken away. i know its not the healthiest but its only for a short time frame.) for about 12 weeks

2)

winstrol 60mg oral a day divided in 3 seperate doses, while still taking liquidex to block natural estrogen. (i know winny doesnt convert into estrogen)

what do u think bros?? and yes i can gain off this light stack. hehe see i told you im a light juicer. my biggest stack ever was 500mg sus a week along with 20mg d-bol a day. and that was months ago.

 

[South of the border]

Congradulations on your gains so far. You are on the right path.

If I had to recommend one out of the two options, I would recommend the sostenon-arimidex cycle.

Here is another option...

Eq (400mg) and winstrol (25-30mg per day). Low dose cycle with better potential to shed the fat, in my opinion.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I personally woyuld go with a Test Winny cycle...Test at
Test at 500mg/week for weeks 1-2
Test at 250mg/week for weeks 3-10
Winny at 50mg/Day for weeks 1-6
Liquidex through out at .25mg/Day
With a good diet you will do awesome bro..I know you are a very dedicated and knowledgeable guy so your gonna do great!

M18

 

[Mike P.T.]

thanks to the both of you. as for Mustang, thx bro for the compliment, especially coming from you. Karma for both of you. as for which stack im gonna go on. nothing against your stack (because i feel i would do well on that as well) south but i think im gonna go with Mustang's cycle. it seems to suit my needs better because it combines both drugs of choice that i wanna use in moderately low amounts for a short time. Karma for you both

 

[moto-racer-1]

Would the cycle M18 just recomended be better than test/winny/fina or would they both be about the same. ( as far as shredding a little b.f. ) And what about sides, A person shouldnt have a soft noodle as long as test is in the picture,(From the tren) Right?

 

[moto-racer-1]

And maybe gaining a couple lb's of lean mass

 

[Mike P.T.]

Would the cycle M18 just recomended be better than test/winny/fina or would they both be about the same. ( as far as shredding a little b.f. ) And what about sides, A person shouldnt have a soft noodle as long as test is in the picture,(From the tren) Right?

no bro a test/winny/fina cycle would definately be more effective. notice i said im a light juicer though that responds well to low doses even. adding tren to your stack will help you greatly. as far as "fina dick" is concerned you will be fine as long as you have the test in there. you also have winny in there which will combat the progesterone side effects from the fina

 

[moto-racer-1]

Mike P.T. -Thanks for info bro

 

[MaGilicuti]

those cycles are pretty weak, and are both completely different from each other in terms of goals.

what exactly are you looking for?

 

[Mike P.T.]

those cycles are pretty weak, and are both completely different from each other in terms of goals.

what exactly are you looking for?

yeah bro i know there pretty weak. as i stated. i ma pretty light juicer but i respond well to lower doses anyway. Mustang provided me with an idea already but thx for asking anway. i already know how my body works bro. just wanted a small opinion on a light stack to help lean out thats all.

 

[MaGilicuti]

i suggest looking into adding fina in there as well. light juicer or not you'll gain everything you want from this wonder drug.

go ahead and ask mustang, he'll tell ya

 

[Mike P.T.]

i suggest looking into adding fina in there as well. light juicer or not you'll gain everything you want from this wonder drug.

go ahead and ask mustang, he'll tell ya

you do have a point there bro. i have great things about fina. even some of my boys are on it and tell me they love it. maybe i'll save that for my summer cycle. was thinking i might add primo instead to this "mild" stack. again hold the laughs. i know primo is mild but im only looking for something to help me build a little muscle while shedding all the fat. i will also be using an eca based stack during this cutting up phase as well. or maybe adipokinetics instead.

 

[MaGilicuti]

i am very interested in primo as well but from what i hear its not worth the money. definently give fina a go around. lowers bf, gain strength, adds muscle and kills your penis

 

[Mike P.T.]

i am very interested in primo as well but from what i hear its not worth the money. definently give fina a go around. lowers bf, gain strength, adds muscle and kills your penis

"kills your penis." hahaha nice touch to add there bro!!! your hilarious this morning. are u on drugs??? (aside from the juice!!) hehe

 

[MaGilicuti]

"kills your penis." hahaha nice touch to add there bro!!! your hilarious this morning. are u on drugs??? (aside from the juice!!) hehe

i wish, last drug i used was some ghb and that shit... well it fucked me the fuck up. that was like 2 weeks ago though.

but yeah, fina killed my penis like crazy. made deca dick look like a pimp

 

[Mike P.T.]

i wish, last drug i used was some ghb and that shit... well it fucked me the fuck up. that was like 2 weeks ago though.

but yeah, fina killed my penis like crazy. made deca dick look like a pimp

oh shit really. ok on a serious note. fina that much worse than deca from your personal experience?? were you on any test at the time??? if you were you shouldnt have had any problems.

 

[MaGilicuti]

deca only and in my other cycled i ended with fina and didn't have test in me for a part of the big finale.

fina definently hit me harder. always have a bit of test in every cycle i think

 

[Mike P.T.]

thx bro for the further info. sent ya some karma

 

[Maxx Out]

I personally woyuld go with a Test Winny cycle...Test at
Test at 500mg/week for weeks 1-2
Test at 250mg/week for weeks 3-10
Winny at 50mg/Day for weeks 1-6
Liquidex through out at .25mg/Day
With a good diet you will do awesome bro..I know you are a very dedicated and knowledgeable guy so your gonna do great!

M18

This looks good to me. Only thing I would do diff. is throw the winny in at week 8 and run it to week 13. I just like the feeling of hardening up at the end as I'm loosing whatever water weight I have left. It'll also keep him strong till the end and he can start clomid asap.


Maxx >>>>>

 

[Mike P.T.]

This looks good to me. Only thing I would do diff. is throw the winny in at week 8 and run it to week 13. I just like the feeling of hardening up at the end as I'm loosing whatever water weight I have left. It'll also keep him strong till the end and he can start clomid asap.


Maxx >>>>>

thx bro for the extra info as well. good point too, was kinda thinking the same thing when i was overlooking it. overall thx all of you for your opinions. i really appreciate it.

 

[serge]

if i had to pick out of your options i would go with test cycle, if you can run:

test 250-500mg/week
either tren or winny 50mg/ed
arimidex .5mg/ed