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Hey big meaty men, can I get some pointers on a poor man's beginner cycle?

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Hi , I'm going to try and hook up with some gear finally soon, when I get some money, but I don't think I'm going to have too much to spare, so I was wondering if anyone could maaybe think of a "poor man's"beginner cycle, along with all the other stuff like clomid and and the usual extras. Thanks to anyone who helps. By the way, stats are, if it matters, 6'3", 24 yrs. old, about 15% bf.
 
Go with the old standby. Deca, dbol, and a little test. You can easily get a decent cycle for around $300, maybe cheaper.
 
how much money do you have?

what are your goals?

we can start there - though I recommend the classic first cycle mix...which I will describe when you answer the above....
 
Big meaty men??? Yikes, I heard some gay guy say that once. :D

Anyway, Dbol (25-30mgs/day), T Enanthate (stay away from T200, 500mgs Every 6 Days), 200-400mgs of Deca/wk for 8 weeks.

HCG/Clomid at the end, unless you have the money for arimidex (Liquidex) which is even better.
 
Mad Machine, that is exactly what I was talking about. Keep the deca at least 400mg a week. 500mg of test is good and dbol for the first 4 weeks.
 
Here's my 2 bits for a fellow chat bro :) :

T200, Norandren (deca), and reforvit are pretty cheap-ass. Just about anyone can afford those. I'd go with 2 bottles of T200, 2 bottles Norandren200, and a bottle of Reforvit-B. That's a good beginner's cycle--and should run maybe $250-$350, depending on who you get it from.....
 
im planning a fina only cylce and its about 400, its only that high becuase i want to have winny "just in case" and because the only way i can buy clomid is 300 at a time! im gonna have clomid for years!:mix:
 
IMHO, stay away from T200 Nor200 and Rev-B. In fact, stay away for gear made in mexico period. Russian Dbols are cheap and work great, Iranian Enanthate can be had for $6 per 250 mgs (12 bucks a week), and Deca can be found at a large variety of prices.

I also think to stay enanthate over sustanon. One is cost. Two is almost everyone responds to enanthate, where sustanon is a little more hit and miss for some reason (time for release too long?).

I have never used a Ttokkyo product, so I can't speak on their behalf, but I've heard as much bad as I have as much good about their products.
 
OK, thanks for all the replies, and here's some replies from me to clear up some clouds...



I should have around 300 bucks to spare. Goals are added muscle mass, although i probably should be more interested in dropping the fat off my gut, but we'll see what happens..I'm counting on added muscle to raise metabolism and make it easier to strip the fat away after, plus I'll probably even get some gear to slim down with later on after a bulk cycle.

And I'm a mod, yeah, but just because I'm a mod doesn't mean i know everything about everything, I'm only assigned to mod the between the sheets section. I never really looked too deep into gear, but it's about time. And by the way, i want to stay away from the t200, didn't hear too good of things on that stuff, and if test is involved I'd rather try and find good stuff like the enanthate, figure if I'm going to spend, I better spend it on good gear, and not settle for "junk".
 
hey bro, T200 is testosterone enanthate....it's just dirty and WAYYYYYY underdosed. Something in the 120mg/mL area, not the 200mg/mL on the label! Sometimes it's up to 150, but that's rare.
 
Krazzylad said:
Your an moderator and your asking this question LOL funny guy :)
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he is a mod on the elite between the sheets ......which really doesnt have anything to do with steroids:rolleyes: thats probably why he is asking:p
 
Perhaps

We should call this the uncle sam cycle. You know all those checks coming out are going to help make a lot of us poor bastards bigger.

Fina/clomid/nolva(just in case)/dbol(russian or thai)/maybe some test.
 
I would think it would be pretty hard to beat the price/performance ratio of 6-8 weeks of fina/dbol/proviron. If you hit the clomid and heavy training, creatine , etc post cycle you should keep most of your gains. I kept 10 lbs solid and lost a few %b.f. on a similar cycle.

good luck bro,

hard
 
Fina/winny combo is working well for me. Should be able to land the fina for under $80, 50mg winny orals for $85 and some clomide for $30-40.
 
Dbol and post cycle Clomid and your good to go. Save the stacks etc. for later if you choose to go that route- AD
 
Hey man. I'll take a stab:

Get some bootleg Steris TestCyp200 +/- $50 (domestic) for a 10 ml bottle; a bottle of Ttokkyo Noran300 +/- $120 per 10 ml bottle; 50 chinese dbol, 50 chinese winny @ $100. Spend the other $30 on clomid.

Cycle price $300

Run the cyp @ 400 mg/ week for wk 1-5
Run the deca @ 375 mg/ week for wk 1-8
Run the dbol @ 1 tab per day (split into 4 doses) wk 1-6
Run the winny @ 1 tab per day (split into 2 doses) wk 5-10

Follow Iron Game's clomid dosing guidelines post cycle. BTW, I've used all these products successfully myself.
 
If he wants to trim up a bit in the process, why use Dbol? That's gonna blow him up with alot of water weight right away. I'm seeing great results on 500-750mg sust/week and started 50mg winny ed in 5th week. cyp or prop would be a little cheaper. If he goes with the oriental gear, he can get pretty much anything he wants in this price range.
 
Stay away from Steris Cyp. It's bunk. Here's what I'd do:

2 carts of Fina = $80
1 Fina kit = $25
2 vials of enathate = $110
24 Clomids = $20
50 pins = $10

If it were me, I'd also add 20 A-bombs for $60. I'd use those the first 3 weeks. But prolly not good for a newbie.


:chomp:
 
Hmm, glad to see I can results for under $500 :)

Lots of choices to sort through...

By the way yeah I forgot to list my weight, I'm hovering between 215-220.

Is test usually expensive compared to the rest of the batch? I was thinking about doing the Australian test enanthate (if i could actually find someone who had it), but along with some of the anti aromatase, like arimidex and clomids of course, and some finasteride for the dht buildup. But i guess all those things would be racking up the price, which would probably defeat my purpose...But then again, if test with those addons is as good as a stack of 2 or 3 others, then it would probably even out, right?
 
Intramuscular said:
Stay away from Steris Cyp. It's bunk. Here's what I'd do:

2 carts of Fina = $80
1 Fina kit = $25
2 vials of enathate = $110
24 Clomids = $20
50 pins = $10

If it were me, I'd also add 20 A-bombs for $60. I'd use those the first 3 weeks. But prolly not good for a newbie.


:chomp:
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I repeat. It worked for me. Maybe the stuff you had was bunk. The stuff I had was tested by King and came in at 186 mg/ml.
 
Burning_Inside said:
Hmm, glad to see I can results for under $500 :)

Lots of choices to sort through...

By the way yeah I forgot to list my weight, I'm hovering between 215-220.

Is test usually expensive compared to the rest of the batch? I was thinking about doing the Australian test enanthate (if i could actually find someone who had it), but along with some of the anti aromatase, like arimidex and clomids of course, and some finasteride for the dht buildup. But i guess all those things would be racking up the price, which would probably defeat my purpose...But then again, if test with those addons is as good as a stack of 2 or 3 others, then it would probably even out, right?
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Test is cheap. Even with the add-ons.
 
cool, thanks again for the info all, and if anyone wants to throw some more reccomendations my way, please do so.
 
This is what ive done in the past as a poor college students cycle;
500mg sust w1-8
300mg deca w1-8
25mg dbol weeks 1-5
clomid of course
usally this comes to around $340-360
GOOD LUCK and let us know what you choose!
 
Oh yeah I forget to mention that all of those products are ttokkyo (cheap) made for the poor man
 
A good cheap beginner stack would be D-Bol and Test. Try this
D-Bol at 30mg/Day for weeks 1-5
Test at 500-600mg/week for weeks 1-10
Clomid post cycle and Nolva on hand. Depending on who your source is you could get this cycle for pretty cheap. With a good diet you should be able to pack on some nice mass. Shoot me an e-mail if you need any help.

M18
 
TheMachine

I'm glad to hear that. I have an full vial of it sitting around. I posted about it and about 50% think it's fake and 50% think its real. I hope it's real, cause it was $65 of my money.
 
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Intramuscular said:
I'm glad to hear that. I have an full vial of it sitting around. I posted about it and about 50% think it's fake and 50% think its real. I hope it's real, cause it was $65 of my money.
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Gimme the link; I'll compare it to what I had. I still have the bottle, box and insert laying around somewhere.

Or, you could always send it to me. :)
 
OK..been thinking some more...

Been leaning towards a small stack of 2 of these three... Winny, Fina, or Test.

So in your opinions, out of those 3, which 2 would you go with, and what should i take along with it? I guess i'd need clomid, arimidex, and proviron, along with some finasteride as well if i decided to go with test right? So test kind of looks like the underdog with price being a factor here, being I'd have to take a whole bunch of other stuff with it. Then again, would just test alone give me better or as good results as a fina winny cycle? I'm also wary of winny cause it's a dirivative of DHT so i have heard, and I'd like to keep my hairline where it's at ....But then again i can always use the finasteride to counteract that.
 
Sexual Mustard said:
Here's my 2 bits for a fellow chat bro :) :

T200, Norandren (deca), and reforvit are pretty cheap-ass. Just about anyone can afford those. I'd go with 2 bottles of T200, 2 bottles Norandren200, and a bottle of Reforvit-B. That's a good beginner's cycle--and should run maybe $250-$350, depending on who you get it from.....
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my thoughts exactly.

is that the guy from static x in your pic?
 
Burning_Inside said:
OK..been thinking some more...

Been leaning towards a small stack of 2 of these three... Winny, Fina, or Test.

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Ok, these are good choices, no water retention (provided the test dose is low), lean mass, very anabolic, will help shed fat. All 3 go together. They were made to stack with each other. As for not taking test with your fina, you can do that if'n you want. But if you are like the majority of people, you will not enjoy your cycle at all, and neither will anybody else around you. Winny also helps with the fina.

I highly recommend doing all 3. Something like this:
Maybe a 6 week cycle (you could easily go longer, this is just an example)
Weeks1-6:test 250mg/week
Weeks1-6:fina 75mg/day or 75mg/eod
Weeks1-6:winny 50mg/day

There ya go. Cheap, simple, easy, effective. And fina has an amazing ability to change your physical appearance quicker than anything else.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 
Thanks for the help again guys and yes Trial0r that's Wayne from Static X.
 
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