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Top-Notch

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Stacking:
Deca & Dbol

week 1-8 Deca 300mg (may bump it to 400)
week 1-4.5ish Dbol 30mg

Should i start PCT after the Dbol is done, or after deca?

PCT Nolva 100mg for 1st week. 50mg 2nd week.


Comment on this please. Do i really need Clomid? I can't find it anywhere, it is that necessary or is Nolvadex good enough.
 
start PCT 2 weeks after last deca shot not after you finish dbol. 100 mg of nolva is too much. 40 mg PD fro week 1. 20mg PD for 3 more weeks. I would also add some clomid. 100mg PD week 1. 50mg PD weeks 2-4.
 
Top-Notch said:
Stacking:
Deca & Dbol

week 1-8 Deca 300mg (may bump it to 400)
week 1-4.5ish Dbol 30mg

Should i start PCT after the Dbol is done, or after deca?

PCT Nolva 100mg for 1st week. 50mg 2nd week.


Comment on this please. Do i really need Clomid? I can't find it anywhere, it is that necessary or is Nolvadex good enough.
wow how creative must have spent months thinking of this cycle . :p
just bustin on ya dude.I would say add atleast 300mg of test with it to get good strenght and solidfy gains if this is your first cycle. the whole cant find clomid then you looking in the wrong places or not looking hard enough
 
that cycle sux! you need test and dont run nolva with deca. bad idead and pct is POST cycle therepy so that means after the deca
 
ok would it be better if i did this.

Wk 1-8 deca 300-400mg
Wk 1-5 sustanon? 500mg

??? i don want to run to much test i hate the effects it puts on me thats why
 
Top-Notch said:
ok would it be better if i did this.

Wk 1-8 deca 300-400mg
Wk 1-5 sustanon? 500mg

??? i don want to run to much test i hate the effects it puts on me thats why
how about you describe those effects in a "cycle history" or training history.. or stats.. PROVIDE MORE INFO, we cannot read your mind and give you advice.. do you just go to the doctor and say "fix me"
 
Top-Notch said:
ok would it be better if i did this.

Wk 1-8 deca 300-400mg
Wk 1-5 sustanon? 500mg

??? i don want to run to much test i hate the effects it puts on me thats why

That looks good, but run both up to at least 10 weeks.

I'd keep the deca at 400mg/wk.

What are your goals?

Make sure to run an aromatase inhibitor to combat estrous sides.

BMJ
 
Height: 5'11
Weight: 150
Bodyfat: 8.7%
Weight Lifting EXP: 3 years

I don seem to get bigger just stronger im benching at 240 with no gear

Just wondering if this would be a good cycle to run the sustanon for only 5 weeks..or is that a bad idea?
 
Top-Notch said:
Height: 5'11
Weight: 150
Bodyfat: 8.7%
Weight Lifting EXP: 3 years

I don seem to get bigger just stronger im benching at 240 with no gear

Just wondering if this would be a good cycle to run the sustanon for only 5 weeks..or is that a bad idea?

At 5' 11" and 150-lbs, it is your diet that is your problem. If you are trying to gain weight, then EAT. Do not try to lean-bulk if doing so, just eat, worry about the 6-pack for another time and date. Gear alone will not compensate for a crappy diet with not enough calories.

Also, sostenon or deca are not ideal for a 5-week cycle.

You need to really rethink how bad you want to enter into this game. Go through and analyze your diet and training first. At 5' 11" you should be way bigger than 150-lbs naturally. What is the point of a 5-week cycle? Either do it right and not be afraid, or do not do it at all.

Before starting, make sure you have your diet and training up to par, and then make sure you have your gear and PCT and ancillaries (AI's).

It would also help if you posted a usual day of eating so we can also look at your diet.

Again, what are your goals?

BMJ
 
Do not use Nolva with that deca. Use AIFM for your cycle and PCT.

Wk 1-8 deca 300-400mg
Wk 1-5 sustanon? 500mg

This is fine but I would put that dbol back in.
Start your PCT 2 weeks after your last shot of deca. You should use HCG the last week and then start clomid. Find some clomid and save some of that dbol just in case you start crashing during your PCT.
 
MR. BMJ said:
At 5' 11" and 150-lbs, it is your diet that is your problem. If you are trying to gain weight, then EAT. Do not try to lean-bulk if doing so, just eat, worry about the 6-pack for another time and date. Gear alone will not compensate for a crappy diet with not enough calories.

Also, sostenon or deca are not ideal for a 5-week cycle.

You need to really rethink how bad you want to enter into this game. Go through and analyze your diet and training first. At 5' 11" you should be way bigger than 150-lbs naturally. What is the point of a 5-week cycle? Either do it right and not be afraid, or do not do it at all.

Before starting, make sure you have your diet and training up to par, and then make sure you have your gear and PCT and ancillaries (AI's).

It would also help if you posted a usual day of eating so we can also look at your diet.

Again, what are your goals?

BMJ
perfect

most get more sides from deca as they are harder to combat
tes sides have an army of control strategies and drugs
clomid can be found on the banner adverisements on this site

how old are you?
this can be a greater deciding factor than any of the info you have posted yet.

if your gonna do a cycle no matter what your plan needs a serious overhaul
research the effects of the drugs you want to take
a google search of each one will reveal profiles with pretty good info

your plan should include

dosage and length of cycle for each AAS

ancilary drugs and the use each one is for

pct
when it starts
what you will use and why

your goals and how your cycle will help you to attain them

if you can write this knowledge down you will probably will not need our advice
treat it like a homework assingnment and write a paper on it then post again
this is how i treated my cycles
and while they were limited to the info that was available to me at the time
each one was well thought out for months in advance

good luck
 
That cycle is ghey.
Just do a basic test deca cycle:
Test E or C 500mg 12 weeks
deca 300mg 10 weeks

pct 2 weeks after last test e shot.
 
treneriffic said:
That cycle is ghey.
Just do a basic test deca cycle:
Test E or C 500mg 12 weeks
deca 300mg 10 weeks

pct 2 weeks after last test e shot.

what the hell
ill try it
sounds good

You have given out too much Karma in the last 24 hours, try again later.
 
I'd have to agree with pretty much everything everones said, you should be able to gain more naturaly, with proper diet. When i was 120lbs, i used to sit on my bowflex and whine about how my metabolism was so high, i couldnt gain no matter what i eat or how much i worked out. But then i sat down, and kept track of what i was REALLY eating in a day. I thought i ate alot, but it came out to like 1200 cals in the end. Once i started raising that above the 3k mark, the weight came. The high metabolism that i used to cry about, actually turned into a blessing, now i can eat 4000cals, clean or not, and not really worry about gaining much fat.. its great.

I was 140lbs when i did my first cycle, so i cant really tell you not to cycle, but i can tell you that it wasnt what i expected, i didnt blow up, and would have gained just as much naturally. But if your going to do it, and are set on deca, here is what id recomend:
1-10 deca 400mg/wk
1-12 test Enth/Cyp 500mg/wk
1-4 dbol 30mg ED (split into 3 or 4 doses)

and then PCT as stated, and as was said, stay away from nolva, it has a bad effect with progestins, can make sides worse.

First and foremost, you really need to look at your diet though.
 
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