help with test suspension cycle needed!!

[j_100801]

i want to start my 3rd cycle next week. what do you guys think of it??

wk 1-5; 30mg dbol ED, 1000mg test suspension, 500mg eq
wk 6-9; 50mg oral masteron (IP) ED, 1000mg test suspension, 600mg eq
wk 12/13/14; clomid 50/100/50mg ED,
wk 1-11; 0,5 mg arimidex ED,
wk 1-12, 3mg proscar ED.

first i wanted to use deca and tren but because i also want to use proscar i changed my cycle in what is above.

what do you guys think if it???

i want to gain at least 22lbs of muscles


my stats; i am 215lbs, 14%bf, height 1,78m. i did 2 cycles before:
1) wk 1-8 500mg sust, 400mg deca, gained 29lbs
2) wk 1-4 20mg dbol, 750mg sust, 450mg eq, wk 5-8 300mg tren, 750mg sust, 450mg eq, gained 23 lbs

so this is going to be my 3rd cycle. i did not know that test susp should only be used for shorter time. how long should i use test suspension? en what should i change in my cycle???

 

[j_100801]

bump

 

[strengthmonster]

Why the hell are you using 1g of suspension in your 3rd cycle?
What is wrong with basic enanthate or cyp?
Suspension is the harshest form of test there is. If you do not break out in bad acne from head to toe I will be very surprised.

 

[j_100801]

i have used 750mg sust, 450mg eq, 300mg tren, and also 1wk of 700mg suspension a week and i do not get any acne whatsoever, mayby because i go to the solarium 1-2 times a week i dont know, but till now i was lucky not have a acne problem.

so you think i should use less test suspension??? i thought it was a good drug to gain a lot of quality muscles.

any suggestions??

 

[strengthmonster]

It is more of a strength and agression drug. I'd stick to stuff like test enanthate, cyp or prop. They are a lot less stressful on the body, less harmful to the liver and give excellent quality gains with less frequency of injections.

There is also no need to up your dosages so much either, even if half the people on here say you do. If you are eating 8-10 times a day, training hard and resting enough then you will grow without all that gear. I am training for a comp right now and use about half of that.

 

[j_100801]

any more input???

 

[NYStrip]

Why is suspension any more harmful than any other test? Just because it's metabolized faster? And why would anything in any test be harmful to your liver?

 

[j_100801]

so NYstrip, you think i CAN use suspension for 8 weeks???

and what do you think of the mass gaines?? is it good for gaining mass? or is it used for strength??

 

[Maxx Out]

so NYstrip, you think i CAN use suspension for 8 weeks???

and what do you think of the mass gaines?? is it good for gaining mass? or is it used for strength??

Bro, there's nothing wrong w/using t.suspen.! It is a bit harsher becuase it met. so quickly but throw in some arimi. and u should be ok. Only thing I would do is cut down on the dosage a bit and thrown in a longer acting test like eth. or cyp. to suplement your cycle with. Looks fin to me, good luck!

 

[j_100801]

maxx out, thanks for input

so you think i can stick to the original cycle, but a little less test suspens so it would be like this??:

wk 1-5; 30mg dbol ED, 700mg test suspension, 500mg eq
wk 6-9; 50mg oral masteron (IP) ED, 700mg test suspension, 600mg eq
wk 12/13/14; clomid 50/100/50mg ED,
wk 1-11; 0,5 mg arimidex ED,
wk 1-12, 3mg proscar ED.

does this look ok?? and what about the cyp??? when should it put in cyp, and with how much??

the cycle above is a good mass building cycle??

thanks again for help

 

[NYStrip]

The issue will be whether or not you can stand sticking the suspension (daily rock injection) for that long. Estrogen management being a seperate issue, I still don't understand why anyone would think it is rough on the liver. There would have to be something in the test like 17aa to make it tough on the liver.

 

[j_100801]

well sticking everyday i dont mind very much, i tried test suspensiion for 1 week before together with fina at the end of my last cycle.

so i think i will stick to my cycle then!!

does anyone knows what kind of gains i can expect?? can i gain 22lbs again? or will this be more like a cutting cycle??

 

[j_100801]

?

 

[aahepp]

IMO...if your using suspension then there is really no need for the dbol. Both are short lived and fast acting. I would liek to see a long ester in there also, but that is up to you.
If your using your anti-Es then it is hard to say what your gains will be. dbol, and suspension are known for increasing your weight by water (bloat), but you are going to be fighting that with the antis

 

[j_100801]

i will put in some sust the first 5 weeks to have some longer acting test in there;

wk 1-5 500mg sust, 300mg test suspension, 30mg dbol, 500mg eq
wk 6-8 700mg suspension, 500mg eq, 50mg masteron ed