Help with my first cycle please....

[wolfman010]

Hey all,
I am going to do my first cycle in the spring to get ready for summer. I am 5'10 190lbs around 12 or 13% bf. My goals are to gain a few LEAN lbs of mass while dropping a considerable amount of body fat. I know I know "testosterone should be your first cycle". I am not looking to gain 25lbs. I just want to add a few lbs of mass and harden up for summer.

So for my goals, I am thinking that Anavar or T-bol fits the bill. I have heard lots of great results by people using either one by themselves and it should be a relatively safe cycle. Something like 7 or 8 wks at 40-50mg with Nolva as PCT.

What do you guys think? Testosterone is not necessary in this cycle is it?

Also, would adding proviron to this cycle provide some extra effect?

Thanks bros

 

[Acela]

honestly, the way you described your goals, you would be better suited using supps like Lipoflame, Amplify02, Zip and Vigor (all available through this sight) and dialing in your diet. Personally, I would research carb-cycling.

juice won't make you "drop a considerable amount of bodyfat" but by dialing in your diet you could. Adding "a few" lean pounds of muscle will simply be a byproduct of:
-dialing in your diet
-taking the right natty supps
-changing your workout routine
-cardio 5-7 x week

for your goals, this just seems more appropriate, but good luck with whatever you choose to do

 

[needtogetaas]

Hey all,
I am going to do my first cycle in the spring to get ready for summer. I am 5'10 190lbs around 12 or 13% bf. My goals are to gain a few LEAN lbs of mass while dropping a considerable amount of body fat. I know I know "testosterone should be your first cycle". I am not looking to gain 25lbs. I just want to add a few lbs of mass and harden up for summer.

So for my goals, I am thinking that Anavar or T-bol fits the bill. I have heard lots of great results by people using either one by themselves and it should be a relatively safe cycle. Something like 7 or 8 wks at 40-50mg with Nolva as PCT.

What do you guys think? Testosterone is not necessary in this cycle is it?

Also, would adding proviron to this cycle provide some extra effect?

Thanks bros

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[wolfman010]

I have my diet dialed in and it has been that way for a long time. I'm just one of those non-genetically gifted people. I have done all the cardio in the world, and had a perfect diet for this (I checked on numerous boards and they all said my diet was great) and I still couldn't get true abs. It's just not in the books for some people man.

Needtogetaas, could I run 40mg ED for 8 weeks instead? And would proviron have any positive effects in this cycle?

Because it's sooo much cheaper....what do you guys think about a Turinabol cycle instead? Results should be quite the same shouldn't they?

 

[needtogetaas]

I have my diet dialed in and it has been that way for a long time. I'm just one of those non-genetically gifted people. I have done all the cardio in the world, and had a perfect diet for this (I checked on numerous boards and they all said my diet was great) and I still couldn't get true abs. It's just not in the books for some people man.

Needtogetaas, could I run 40mg ED for 8 weeks instead? And would proviron have any positive effects in this cycle?

Because it's sooo much cheaper....what do you guys think about a Turinabol cycle instead? Results should be quite the same shouldn't they?

running prov would be two dht's. This would not be so good. A lot of dht is never good bro.

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[wolfman010]

anyone else think anavar or t-bol would be a good first cycle to cut up and add some lean lbs??

 

[79steeler]

anyone else think anavar or t-bol would be a good first cycle to cut up and add some lean lbs??

Bro listen to Needto, he will not steer you wrong.

 

[wolfman010]

No I believe you I didn't say that he was.....here i'll ask this question instead. It's broader so maybe I can get some more varied answers.

My goals are to gain quality lean mass while losing bodyfat. I had originally started off thinking about a test cyp. cycle at 400mg/week, but I am not sure if this kind of cycle would be good for "recomping", or would it?

Then, I read about the fat burning properties of Anavar while being able to gain some lean lbs.

So, to rephrase my question....what legal OR injectable OR oral cycle would be best suited for these types of goals?

I want it to be SIMPLE and SAFE. I don't want water retention, just lean quality gains that I can KEEP.

Thanks bros....I'm interested in what all of you have to say

 

[wolfman010]

I think I figured out what I'm going to do. How does this look?

wks 1-10 Test Cyp 400mg/wk
wks 1-10 A-dex as needed to ward off water retention

PCT (2 weeks after last injection)
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

Now, I was thinking about adding T3 in there somewhere to get a good amount of fat loss going. Where in this cycle would I do this and what dosages? How would it look with the T3? And......how dangerous is adding the T3?

Thanks

 

[iceman7230]

You need to understand that steroids will add mass with increase in diet.

Dieting while on steroids to loose fat will only help you keep the muscle you already have.

There is no sence in using steroids to loose body fat and gain muscle in my opinion. This can be done but you are better off doing a cycle, getting big and then dieting down afterwards.

You are wasting your money trying to get big and lean at the same time.