HELP with HBP induced by high hematocrit

[Oxbow]

Age : 23
Cycles : 2nd (first one was 1 year ago.
6 feet / 202 pounds
Actual cycle : Test / Deca / Anavar

Hey guys, I need your help ! My BP is pretty high (170 / 80) but my doc recommended to try cardio + potassium/calcium/magnesium/cOq10 and see how it's going on.

My problem is I have too much red blood cell and this causes a high hematocrit. My blood is too thick.

So the question is : How do I fluidize my blood ?

The best bodybuilder in my gym told me that aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) can fluidize the blood and that's what he uses.

So I DON'T WANT stop my cycle for that problem please.

What I'm gonna do :

- Take Potassium / Calcium / Magnesium / cOq10
- Take natural diuretic against water retention
- Higher AI (anastrozole) dosage against water retention
- 10min cardio before each training and 10 after.
- Taking Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid)

SO my questions :

1) Am I right with the list above ?
2) HOW TO fluidize the blood ?
3) Any advice regarding HBP ?

 

[Oxbow]

ps : I've read that a solution could be giving my blood : what do you think ?

edit : I can't give my blood with deca in it I think so I could just do a venipuncture on myself ?

 

[Mia305]

Oxbow,

Here is what i'do:

-dontate blood
-take aspirin
-increase the cardio to 30min before and 30after, it doesnt have to be running walking fast will do.
-take magnesium,coq10, B-complex, 1 banana in the morning, and 1 pill of 5g melastonin 30 min before bed.
-take arimidex .5mg ed
AND DRINK LOTS OF WATER. 1 FULL GALLON PER DAY.
You'll be right, happened the same thing to me, took care of it by doing what i just mentioned above.

Good luck bro, dont worry, not a big deal.

 

[Oxbow]

mia305, what a nice answer I could not expect better thank you!
Hope I'll survive, I've heard that when a blood vessel explodes in the brain because of HBP, this is not healthy.

 

[bonacris]

ps : I've read that a solution could be giving my blood : what do you think ?

edit : I can't give my blood with deca in it I think so I could just do a venipuncture on myself ?

You can still donate blood.. it will be test and screened. It wastes their time but it's safer

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[dylangemelli]

yes, definitely donate blood bro... your fine to do so and it will really help... i would go with aromasin from here on out... 12.5 mg ed and then after some time drop to eod... follow the other items that are already listed and you will be just fine bro...

 

[drewmaci]

Do you have sides from hbp?

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[Oxbow]

Thanks a lot for answers.

No HBP is a silent bitch, if you don't check your BP nothing can tell you where you're at. Only when your brain fucking explodes and you become paralyzed or when your heart stop suddently.

I will definetly give a pint of blood. Even if it is full of Deca Test Anavar and red blood cell lol

 

[Mia305]

Your welcome oxbow, keep checking your BP and hit us up if you have any other questions, but you'll be fine man.

 

[Oxbow]

Yes I need your help!!!
They dont want me to donate blood because my hematocrit is too high and I have HBP.

So how can I throw my blood out ??? Help please !

 

[Race121]

I wouldn't be getting over-enthusiastic about withdrawing your own blood. Follow the protocol Mia/Dylan gave you and continue to monitor.

Who is the "they" that don't want you donating blood?

By what means are you monitoring your BP on a daily basis?

 

[Oxbow]

It is ok guys, "they" reffers to the institution that collect blood. But they do therapeutic bleeding too I just need a doc prescription.

 

[Race121]

Good, good. Follow up with the Mia/Dylan plan laid out and get your referral for the therapeutic draw. Try to relax and not worry. This can be reversed and long term HBP on an aging cardiovascular system make up the vast majority of incidents. Statistics are on your side.

 

[Oxbow]

190 / 100

My BP goes higher every day thats freak me out. So doc told me to stop the cycle immediatly. I will go 2-3 months with cardio, donating blood, supplements for lowering my BP, aspirine, diuretics, relaxing, cqo10, potassium and see how it's going on. I'm sure I can lower it and then cycle again.

 

[Race121]

Yes, that sounds like your best option at this point, 190/100 is very high. Out of curiosity, what were your weekly dose amounts?

 

[Oxbow]

Hey Race121

250 Test E
400 Deca
I wanted to add Anavar at the end of cycle. (Last 5 weeks) @ 30mg ED

This is a "no hairloss cycle"

This is not high dosage. But last cycle was exactly 7 months ago and I had got a high BP too.

Thats not a big deal. I am sure I will be able to lower my BP. Bodybuilding is a long term thing. I don't want to risk my life now. I will wait till everything is normal (cholesterol, good cardio, BP in normal range) then cycle again. I'm 23 years old I have enough time to become a Beast.

I am open for more advices concerning lowering the HBP during off cycle. Sure that not everything has been said.
I will try to get some Ramipril from my source, a medication against HBP, and will run that during next cycle.

 

[rustilldown]

Go donAte blood! It will mAke a world of a difference. Also how many stimulants if any do you take a day, do you drink energy drinks and pre workouts?

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[Oxbow]

I hate stims and caffeine and try to avoid them as much as possible. It kills your appetite, sleep and fuck you BP.
I have a question, would NPP be a better choice than Deca regarding BP ? I think there is a link between water retention and HBP.

 

[stevesmi]

n2guard is needed my friend. need to protect your lipids

 

[Oxbow]

Oh boys, my BP was 190/100 and I coud not give my blood with a hematocrit that high (after bloodwork it was so high the nurse was looking at me like... expecting a heart attack to happen) so my doc took my blood himself (500ml) and.... WOAW
My BP is now (1 day after) 150/75 WTF this was the answer !!

I want to do that again in 2 weeks hope he agrees... I was supposed to stop my cycle but I can continue now

I take an aspirin at night and do cardio. Any knows exactly what does Aspirin do for the heart/blood vessels ?

I'm taking N2Guard and HCGenerate now.
thanks

 

[Race121]

Aspirin acts as a bloodthinner/anticoagulant.