Help with first cycle

[johnnyboy3689282]

Why shouldnt he run tren his first cycle? Where is that rule written out and id love to hear all of your reasoning behind that statement. I personally ran it my first with proper education behind my decision pyrmiding my doses to find my tolerance with no effects and gained 32 lbs in 8 weeks keeping my Tren/Test ration at 1:2. No side effects and retained 29 lbs after PCT. Never had a problem nor have I 2 tren cycles later. And ive never ran AE during either. I will in future just because i think it prolongs your health.
But start at
Tren -50mg 1-2 weeks
75 mg 3-4 weeks
100mg 4-8 weeks and see if you ahve sides.
Test should be 100mg 1-2 weeks
150 mg 3-4
200mg 4-8 and then 500mg per weeks for 4 weeks after while running your oral, winny, anavar, Proviron, whatever.

Id consider Tren E if your doing E3D because your gonna have time where there is no active tren ester in your body. ACE should be pinned ED, EOD if your afraid of needles. No pain, No gain baby! Your test is fine, but id prefer prop to keep the hale lifes the same, but cyp is to far off!

I know many people who have ran tren for their first cycle and had great results with no sides and im one of them. Your also gonna do whatever u want and id recommened low dose and youll still see great fucking gains!!!!
Good luck Bro
Johnny

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ bro I have to say welcome to the board and we always welcome unorthodox ideas and views on things but I am telling you upfront you will find it tough on here with a lot of the info you are giving out. you aren't gonna find many people that are gonna agree with you. your views on AAS are far out there. you seem to be a knowledgeable guy and come off as very intelligent which worries me a lot because posters will take what you are writing as gospel.

tren is a bad idea for a first cycle because of the high side effects and the recovery issues. a first cycle should be short and conservative, learn the basics, then maybe on a 4th or 5th cycle go with tren or deca. on this board we do not endorse using tren or deca for a first cycle. we want people to recover fine and keep running cycles and stay healthy in the process.. we do not want guys to be shutdown for months because they did not know to run cabaser or how to run PCT

also the whole pyramiding AAS is complete nonsense. this isn't cortico-steroids, these are anabolic steroids. and also you do not need to run test prop with tren ace, that is nonsense. i ran sustanon and cyp with my tren ace cycle. I really am dumbfounded by the advice you are giving out. by your postings you definately have a lot of confusion as to what half lives are and what they mean. just cause something has a 2 day half life doesn't mean it takes 2 days to 'kick in'. it takes time for the AAS to build up in your system ya know. and just cause test has a 2-3 week half life doesn't mean it takes that long either, any AAS is active WITHIN HOURS.

and come on... 32 pound gain in 8 weeks? you must have been so below your genetic potential that you had no where to go but gain. i am calling BS on this one unless you weighed like 130 pounds before and then decided to workout
for the first time.

I gained 4 pounds on my tren ace cycle which I would definately consider successful. look at my log and my before and after pics, it is a world of difference yet only 4 pounds... that is what happens when you already have a strong base.

with these views you have I would put up some pics of yourself to show you have walked the walk because I am telling you right now the mods and vets on this board are not gonna take what you are saying very seriously and you are endangering the newbs on here recommending tren for a first cycle!

 

[Hoodstar818]

Yo I don't know where to begin to thank u guys for the dedication you have to body building. I will save the trenbolone or can I is there an expiration. I will run test ace and the win oral can you please throw me in the right direction for a pct and any thing I have to add thanks

 

[lamatit]

Hey bro, if you dont already know about pct, then you ought to hold off a while.
Go read about nolvadex, clomid, hcg, unleashed, hell there are probably hundreds of threads on here about pct