Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below alright heres the deal. i'm training 3-4 times a day. running and swimming in the early morning, at lunch i'm doing own body weight exercise and bear crawls and frog leaps and what not for about 45-60mins, then in the even i hit an ocean swim for about a mile and then the gym for high reps light weight. but i have been hitting it hard. i'm trying to drop weight which i am, but i'm looking for a more vascular look rather than size. and i want to get rid of the water weight. so i'm looking for some suggestions. i'm trying to get the veins and the damn abs to pop out. and its coming along. i just need to shed some water weight for the more "dry" look. help wanted, apply within bro's. i know theres some good knowledge out there so help me out.
help with diet for high intensity training and vascularity
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miacova
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Maybe you are overtraining?
Too much cardio and you won't be able to lose any more weight... have a break and sort out the diet.
Too much cardio and you won't be able to lose any more weight... have a break and sort out the diet.
miacova said:
i feel really well. i dont think i am over training to tell you the truth, but yes some do. thats why i do focus alot on own body weight, running, swimming, plyos' that sort of thing. my weight sessions usually last no more than 60mins. i have to train like this for up coming things with work. i only want to lose about another 8lbs at most. then i can run like a rabbit on crack. lol.
. i just want to tweak up a good diet for this kind of training. i need the carbs, so getting rid of those is not an option for me. but i'm not sure what kind of diet to focus on. i want to rid of some of this water weight as well. i want to get the veins and abs to pop back out. i know theres a bit of fat over them to. any help.......?
pintoca
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It looks like overtraining. I have read that the way to increase vascularity is basically the complete opposite to what you are doing: Low Reps with high weights... key is to maximize blood flow to the muscle and to do this you hold the weights at the peak of the movement, keeping the muscle in tension for as much as you can hold it.
Tension time is critical
Again, vascularity comes only with low body fat too, the same with abs, no need to over train them.
Careful with this type of exercise thoug, as it has been reported it can send your blood pressure through the roof if you have the predisposition to it
Tension time is critical
Again, vascularity comes only with low body fat too, the same with abs, no need to over train them.
Careful with this type of exercise thoug, as it has been reported it can send your blood pressure through the roof if you have the predisposition to it
musclebosun
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i have to train like this for up coming things with work.
Dam bro. What sort of work requires you to train like an animal? Judging by your handle i'm guessin somethin military.
Dam bro. What sort of work requires you to train like an animal? Judging by your handle i'm guessin somethin military.
musclebosun said:i have to train like this for up coming things with work.
Dam bro. What sort of work requires you to train like an animal? Judging by your handle i'm guessin somethin military.
yes military. and sometimes i do feel like a fuckin animal. but the training is going well.
musclebosun said:i have to train like this for up coming things with work.
Dam bro. What sort of work requires you to train like an animal? Judging by your handle i'm guessin somethin military.
the human body is capable of 10x the amount of pain and suffering one thinks is possible. its truly a great thing!
you must be in incredible shape. good job.
it is alot though and maybe cutting back to an hour and a half a day for a few weeks will help, or possibly taking a week off while still dieting. speed training and endurance aren't effected until i think 1 week or 10 days of no training has passed.
it is alot though and maybe cutting back to an hour and a half a day for a few weeks will help, or possibly taking a week off while still dieting. speed training and endurance aren't effected until i think 1 week or 10 days of no training has passed.
timtim said:
thats the thing though, i'm not in incredible shape yet. i've only been on this regiment for about 3.5 weeks now. i'm pushing myself so i get in great shape. its been a tough 3 weeks so far. but its working. i may be in great shape compared to some i work with but....not to where i want to be. within 4 months when i get back stateside, i should be right around where i wnat to be. then i will focus on maintaining. thanks for the input
pintoca
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dicedgunz said:
Bro, it is really simple.
what was your weight and bf% again???
it will go something like this:
breaksfat: oats+skimmed milk+flax
mid morning: chiucken breast
lunch: tuna or chicken breast with some green leafy veggies if you want
mid afternoon: chicken breast
pre-workout: chicken breast + flax
post workout: whey+easy carbs
quanities will vary according to your weight. The key not to hold water is limit your carb intake.
Sassy69
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I have to agree w/ the above -- you are training at a level that starts to look like distance running or triathletes. To a degree vascularity is a genetic thing - I have to get down pretty low in bf, like 8% (on a female) to get the ab veins.
Also if you just started this regimen 3.5 weeks ago, your body may sort of be freaking out too and holding on to all the stored fat it has, thus your watery look.
I really have no idea how much energy you are burning doign all this workout -- you might look at one of the programs like www.fitday.com -- I think there's a section that you can enter your daily physical activity & get an estimate on cals burned. Its prob not accurate but could give you a ballpark figure. Then put in your current diet & determine what you are getting and what you need.
Also if you just started this regimen 3.5 weeks ago, your body may sort of be freaking out too and holding on to all the stored fat it has, thus your watery look.
I really have no idea how much energy you are burning doign all this workout -- you might look at one of the programs like www.fitday.com -- I think there's a section that you can enter your daily physical activity & get an estimate on cals burned. Its prob not accurate but could give you a ballpark figure. Then put in your current diet & determine what you are getting and what you need.
jackedshredded
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Hey bro, what's your diet like?? I have had great vascularity, everyone in my gym says i look like a freak, but I'm not huge by any means(5'10 - 175lbs) and I train for 1-2 hours lifting then I box for 1 hour in the evening, this would be considered overtraining I think if it wasn't for the diet eat VERY CLEAN. BE PATIENT, your obiously in great shape, so don't worry about what you look like, it will come in time.
