Help With Cycle

[streetyfatb]

Hi,

I am about 5"9 have been training around 5 years with 4 steroid cycles under my belt and weigh roughly 210 - 217lbs (15 - 15.5stones). I am deciding my 5th cycle. My body fat is around 12-15%. My top abs are showing and my shoulders/chest have veins showing so the body fat is just an estimate.

I want to increase muscle mass, not too dramatically perhaps 7-10lbs, but mainly rip up and look lean. Here is what I am toying with:

Probs HGH @ 4 iu per training day, however I have enough for only 100ius I have been told i need to run this for 4-6 months, is this true, is 5 weeks too little, other wise 100iu of IGF????

100mg test prop & 100mg tren ace every other day

I am not sure whether to run winny tabs at 100mg day or anavar or is there anything else that would run well in this cycle to help gain size that will be solid and cut me up???

HCG and Clomid to finish up on and I will run 1 extra for keeping water down armidex and another (forgot name) to keep test levels high for tren.

Any help fellas I need it up and running ASAP but need expert advice, I welcome any suggestions and new products.

 

[b_light]

best results are seen with GH ran at 6+ months. IMO 5 weeks is just throwing it away.

 

[Bruce]

i would run var over winny just because of joint pain or look into tbol. yes gh needs to be run for that at least. if i were you i'd run a test cyp and eq with some tren ace and var. however, if you are dead set on the prop and ace i'd do 50mg ed of both to keep from sides from the tren. i would also use aromasin over arimdex. it is much more effective and not hard on lipids.

 

[mattdan]

best results are seen with gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - ran at 6+ months. IMO 5 weeks is just throwing it away.

My personal GH experience is time on is more important than dosage. It takes time to respond for sure. IMHO GH is also over rated for the cost.

Also - 100mg of winny ED? That's a pretty high dosage. I'd cut it in half. How long are you going to run it?

 

[streetyfatb]

oh i should also mention the HGH is chinese generic stuff that I am considering whether this makes a difference or not I dont know

 

[b_light]

I've heard mixed things, some say its weaker some say best bang for buck. Everything i have heard and seen about g.h in PERSON and not on the net has been that the shit is insane so thats what im going by not what word around the net is.

 

[streetyfatb]

okay guys thanks for your help what would you do given my situation assuming that I haven't told you what I plan to do, with maximum results and what about using IGF instead of human growth hormone - somatropin - ??

And if i were to take HGH for about 2 months would I loose the gains from it, also do i just run that on its own whilst off steroids???

 

[mattdan]

I've never personally used IGF so I won't comment.

T.ren, T.est and W.inny are a pretty good combo. You'd do well on just those.

 

[streetyfatb]

any comments on igf please?

 

[mattdan]

BTW, if you've never done t.ren, I would definately start out at 75mg rather than 100mg. It can be some nasty shit for many people.

 

[streetyfatb]

yeah i have done tren ace twice before brillant stuff, did 100mg every 3 days 1st time and then 100mg 3 times a week second. is IGF not popular no one seems to be commenting on it.