Help with Cycle/PCT

[Streetgearz]

Stats
Age: 24
Ht: 6'1
Weight: 208
BF: 10%
Calorie intake= 4000-6000 (sometimes it gets hard with work but i do what I can)

Cycle History
4 week Superdrol cycle (4 years ago)
10 week Sust only Cycle (3 years ago
12 week Test/Dbol cycle (1 year ago)
8 week Prop/Winstol cycle (3 months ago)

New Cycle
Dbol= 20mg/day weeks 1-4
Test E 250 2x/week= 500mg weeks 1-14
Eq 200 2x/week= 400mg weeks 1-13
Beast= weeks 13-16

AI= adex on hand but I've never had problems before.
Liver support= 3 bottles of N2Guard

PCT
On hand I have 3 bottles each of POST CYLE and UNLEASHED. 60 Clomid tabs. 2 bottles of HCGenerate.
I've always done the standard Clomid/Nolva/Adex during PCT and HC during cycle. But After some reading I figured I'd give this other stuff a shot. I don't like the emotional sides of Clomid and nolva puts my sex drive on vacation.
Could someone help me with the exact dosing of the POST CYCLE and UNLEASHED?
And with these three do I need the clomid?

thanks...

 

[stevesmi]

hi welcome to the board.

first off let me recommend you tweak your cycle just a bit. i would shorten it to 12 weeks max. why? cause it will be easier to cycle that way and rebound after.

also make sure you run some liver supps during the dbol and beast for sure.

and on your PCT.. you have run 4 cycles, you should be doing blood tests and figuring out what PCT works best for you. its such an individual thing. i strongly recommend hcg during and after your cycle to get your PCT going. or you can look into HMG which is similar but new. if you like clomid or nolva then run hcg along with them and it will mask those sides you are complaining about. i personally hate clomid.

 

[oklahoma86]

Stevesmi why do you say that ^^^? Im not an expert by any means, but from everything Ive heard (Ive got an Eq/Test cycle planned for spring) 12 weeks is about the minimum that one would want to stay on for a cycle with Eq. Everyone seems to advocate 12-16 week runs, and since he is only running one cycle a year it seems like even though he would have a little bit rougher rebound than a shorter cycle he certainly has plenty of time for it, and a full recovery. If your going to use a substance that takes 10-12 weeks build in the system enough to see full results why would you immediately cut it short by just 2 or 3 weeks from seeing maximum gains? I know it stays active in the system a good bit longer, but it seems like if your going to spend 3 months at a reasonably low dose of test and eq you may as well make it 4 and max the shit out - keep in mind he's only doin this once a year! If he was planning on going back on a couple months after the cycle I would understand your advice, but it seems like if anyone is in a position to do a good 14 or 16 week cycle its this guy - 4 cycles under his belt, averageing one a year. BTW This is really more of a question than an argument... I have never used Eq, but like I said I plan to in the next few months and Im still fine tuning my own cycle, so your input would be appreciated.

 

[stevesmi]

it is a myth that any steroid takes 10-12 weeks to build in your system. a total MYTH.

the longer your cycle, the longer it will take your body to recover. that is my best advice to you.. keep it 12 weeks MAX.

you start going over that then you run the risk of never recovering. Nelson is a big advocate of shorter cycles and the guy knows his stuff and I trust him.

your friend is doing the right thing only doing 1 cycle per year. if you want to go longer that is your own decision. but I will continue to advise guys to keep it 12 weeks max. the esthers with testosterone stay in your body for 2-3 weeks after anyway. so in reality the cycle is really going much further. I have blood work to prove something like sustanon with a long esther stays 3 weeks solid into the body before the crash comes.

my next cycle is 10 weeks MAX. i am running primo and sustanon. that gives me 13 weeks to work my tail off to reach my goals as the sustanon starts working within 48 hours. that should be plenty of time for an experienced lifter.

 

[Streetgearz]

Thanks for the replies... I've only had a blood test done a few years back. I know I really should do that and I don't really have an excuse so don't flame me guys lol.

Stevesmi- i've always had that same mind set of never running over 12 weeks but this is my first time running another injectable besides test. And i've read and read, and seem that 14 weeks was the mostly recomended legnth for EQ.

Any experience with the PCT i planned on doin? (POSTCYCLE/UNLEASHED/HCGenerate)

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks for the replies... I've only had a blood test done a few years back. I know I really should do that and I don't really have an excuse so don't flame me guys lol.

Stevesmi- i've always had that same mind set of never running over 12 weeks but this is my first time running another injectable besides test. And i've read and read, and seem that 14 weeks was the mostly recomended legnth for EQ.

Any experience with the PCT i planned on doin? (POSTCYCLE/UNLEASHED/HCGenerate)

yes and that PCT isn't enough. you need to throw in hcg/HMG. read the sticky best PCT for 2010 for ideas.

PCT is an individual thing. I think i read this is your 5th cycle? and you've only had 1 blood test? how do you know you recovered previously before jumping on another cycle? you probably weren't recovered..

 

[Streetgearz]

I have a little HCG left over but I'll get some more before I start. And also you're 100% I need to getthe blood test done before I start. I know its not the right way at all but I've always just gone off of feel and time. I figured once I felt good and normal, wait a few months and i would be. Hence why I've done one cycle a year.

 

[stevesmi]

get a full panel done while you are at it. check your kidney's specifically.