HELP: Testosterone Levels

[Grainger]

I had some blood work done and I had my testosterone levels checked. The results came back normal but on the low side, 269. Normal range is 241 - 800! That totally sucks. I finished my last cycle 9 weeks ago and I used HCG, N-dex and Clomid for recovery.

I am 32 years old. I was wondering if anyone else has had their test levels checked? Is it a bad idea to go on another cycle? I don't seem to be able to hold much size anymore.....I fear having to take test for the rest of my life. Anyone else have to do this?


Thanks,
Grainger

 

[Grainger]

anyone?

 

[Seth28]

9 weeks ago and your not back yet, what kind of cycle did u do? if it was something long acting it may still have you shut down. I know deca may keep you low for quite some time, not sure on fina as I havent used it. If it doesnt come back up and your symptomatic (ie. loss of libido, fatigue, loss of interests etc) then you are a candidate for long term HRT.

Oh and it would be a bad idea to cycle again if your goal is to get your natural test up. if you wanted to stay off for awhile then try taking 500units of HCG every 3rd day for a couple months and see where that puts you. If your concerned about all the size and strenght your losing and want to cycle again, yes it will inhibit natural recovery and may prolong it or make it impossible next time you stop.

good luck
seth

 

[Miracle Man]

Well your not the only one, mine were 74ng/ml. I an on HRT for ever. Now I keep the levels around 850ng/ml. I did all the right things, but I am older 38. I would not panic, 269ng/ml is not too bad after a cycle. Retest after 4 weeks and see the difference. If they are still at that range, well, its up to you, if you want higher levels, you may have to be on test. replacement for ever. Its not the worst thing in the world. I like Testoviron depot, allows me to inject once per week and keeps my levels at full peek. Dont use too much HCG, you can get a negative effect from it and your'll shut yourself down. good luck.

 

[Grainger]

Thanks a lot Seth. I did use 400 Deca, 400 - 600 test and then 25 mg of dbol this past cycle. I really feel kinda shitty.....libido is almost gone and I do have a lost of interest. I am currently taking Zoloft though for seasonal affective disorder (SAD). Thanks for your thoughts, I appreicate it. If anyone else has any input or experience that would be great.

 

[Seth28]

yeah bro, if thats the case maybe give it another 4 weeks, as miracle said, and retest.
If you need HRT, I dont have any experience with it but I am sure someone can elaborate on the use of androderm/testoderm patches or androgel if you dont feel like weekly injections when your off cycle.

 

[Triple J]

deca strikes again!!

Grainger you may want to get off the zoloft and onto wellbutrin. It should help you feel better because it hits the dopamine pathways moreso than what you are on (and thus could perhaps help with prolactin regulation). I know for me dopamine always seems prominent in SAD symptoms as well as post cycle crashes. You should have your estrogen levels checked with your testosterone levels. Unless your estrogen levels are already low consider running some anti-e like adex. Don't forget prolactin could also be an issue I would get some bromo and see if that helps you any, too. But if you run both Wellbutrin and bromo be very careful. Lastly, I would say most likely you just need to give this more time because of the deca.

 

[ironmaster]

grainger, it's not unusual at all to still be suppressed after 9 weeks. Some take 6 months or more to fully recover from extensive steroid use. I know a brother who developed gyno one year after his last cycle. Tests showed his estrogen levels were high and T levels still quite low.
Of course, at 53, I don't worry about this anymore. I'm "on" for good.

 

[Grainger]

My prolactin levels were 12 (2.1 - 17.7 is the normal range) I have some dostinex do you think that I should take that? I am not sure if I understand how prolactin levels would affect my test levels?


Thanks a lot for all the information guys, I really appreciate the help. This really stresses me out, I have done a number of cycles with Deca in the past but never again. I am going to stick with Test and EQ....IF I have not already screwed myself up.

 

[Grainger]

I should also point out that I used 25 mg of Aromasin and 10 mg of N-Dex after 4 weeks into my cycle becuase I noticed I was starting to get gyno.

Post cycle I used HCG for the first 3 weeks with n-dex...then I ran n-dex another 3 weeks after that. I still didn't think that I recovered so I ran clomid for 15 days. I can't imagine that I am having a problem with estrogen now though?

 

[leancuisine]

time on equals time off is not necessaily a good formual when it comes to natural test levels.
for a person finishing an 8 week cycle, it make 8-16 weeks for their natural test levels to come back to normall. some even take longer!

now, clomid, hcg and the other post cycle drugs work to an extent. but my formula is 8 weeks on, and at least 16 weeks off.

been doing it for years and i gain major muscle every cycle without having to use more gear.

favorite cycle:

8 weeks cutter
sustanon 250mg every 5 days.
weeks 5-8: 100mg winstrol depot eod.

add clen and efedrine, eat smart, and increase cardio, and you'll shed major fat and gain major muscle.

ciao amigos

 

[Triple J]

My prolactin levels were 12 (2.1 - 17.7 is the normal range) I have some dostinex do you think that I should take that? I am not sure if I understand how prolactin levels would affect my test levels?

You will be better off with your prolactin levels at the lower end of the range. I would use the dostinex it will get the job done very well. This should improved your condition if your are doing everything else right. How did you end up getting prolactin measured and not estrogen? Unless estrogen is in the low normal range already I would run adex or other like product in moderate dose to get e to low normal levels.

 

[Stillgoing]

As stated, on the test level, give it more time. If you want, try another run with clomid. I think it works better for me than n-dex. If you run HCG, run for 2-3wks MAX.

 

[Grainger]

It sounds like I have to wait, which kinda sucks because I want to hit another cycle of test and eq. Nothing major just want to start growing. I am not sure why the doc did not check my estrogen levels. He doesn't know that I have used any gear and I was a little hesitant to be asking him for specific tests that would tip him off if you know what I mean.

My other doc from the board suggested that I do another recovery cycle as well with HCG,Clomid, and N-dex and then do a retest after that. I feel kind of strange taking HCG without being on a cycle. Thanks for the help.

 

[Superfrk]

Take some armidex or l-dex, It has a positive effect on FSH production and will help your natural levels recover/ increase.