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HAPPYKC

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Hello folks,

I have a strange problem, for years I have been getting great gains in strength and size from my training schedule utilising my home power rack and smith machine. I train 6 days a week with Sundays off, and all of a sudden for todays Shoulder/Chest workout my strength disappeared to the point where I could barely finish my warm up set, I would like to add that I increased my strength for rear delt lifts just yesterday and it may be just that my body is recovering from the rear delt workout and thus my delts are weaker the next day for it. I would like some third party opinion about it as the people here seem to have interesting things to add. The following are my stats and regime.


3 years body building
6 foot
115 KG 11% body fat
Natural Maso build (thick set)
Bench 410 for reps of 10
Squat 450 for reps of 10, eg fairly strong.

I do not have a set amount of sets, it depends on my energy levels and my method allows me to work as hard as my day allows.
2 warm up sets with half my top range weight of 10 reps.
followed by 1 set of -20 pounds (-40 pounds for heavy lifts and -10 for light lifts such as curls)
Next is a set of my best weight for 10 reps
Next I add 20 pounds for heavy lifts or 10 pounds for lighter lifts as my test set.
If I can do 10 reps I have gotten stronger and will do set after set of 10 reps till I cannot do anymore.
Once that happens I will reduce by 20 pounds as above and repeat till I cannot do 10 reps and finally move down another 20 pounds and repeat till it is over.
I have found the method to be very effective for me as the workouts are always to the strongest for that day and it has given me good gains in size and strength.


Monday
Chest first (Smith Bench or power rack),
second shoulder (Smith or power rack), Triceps (close grip bench on smith or rack)

Tuesday
Hamstrings (Stiff leg dead lifts), Quads (squats power rack), Calves (raises on power rack)

Wednesday
Back- bent row dumbell - weighted chin ups - rear delt bentdumb bell lifts -
Biceps - Curls
Forearms - Reverse curls

Thursday
Is a reverse on Monday I do my shoulders first on Thursday to give each part priority.

Friday
Same as Tuesday

Saturday
Back- Dead lifts
Trap- Bar shrugs from power rack
Biceps - Curls
No forearms as they get heavy work from dead lifts

Sunday Rest

Diet
Eat everything in sight (average of 4500+ cal a day)
I eat about 6-8 times a day at least
red meat- protein powders - sushi
Ensure good carbs for constant insulin spike.
No problems with fat as it seems to be constant and reach a peak of 11% due to my intense workout schedule.


Supplements
60G Creatine per meal (3 table spoons of creatine per meal)
No roids

Body sensations
High body temperature
Good water retention not over board.
A small degree of hyper tension due to water retention but I am ok about it as I am having good lifts because of water retention.
 
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Well I have decided to take a 3 day break from training and restart next week as I suspect my problem is overtraining. This happens periodically and I hope it is just a case of that and not something else.
 
JL_204 said:
So how many sets do you typically do???

2 sets warm up + 1 set -20 pounds from peak + 1 set of peak + 1 set of +20 pounds peak + if I fee strong I do that set over about 2 sets, once I fail I move down -20 pounds and repeat till I fail and repeat one more time.
On average I do about 3 sets per tier.

It works out to be about on average 12 sets but it could be abit more if I am carb up to max that day, but it can be as low as 7 sets sometimes when I am tired from work or I somehow miss out on carbs hehe. In either case I do not believe in fixed sets but a flexible method to hit it hard when I need it and less when I cannot.

Speaking of which I am enjoying my break due to the above issues hehe.
 
It is monday 6:20 am my chest/shoulder/tricep workout was a blast.
My strength for all lifts increase by 20 pounds, it seems that I was just suffering from abit of over training and the deload turned out to be a wonderful thing.

Anyway I was reading somewhere in the forums that Smith Machines are no good for natural movements, http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=411861
I have to say I agree which is why I also have a power rack at home. I have recently bought a new type of Smith machine with a 7 degree slant to reflect natural movements, it seems to me to memic natural lifting and I have a great time with it so far. As with everything make sure you shop around as not all "Smiths" are equal.
 
I know hehe but I could not resist the urge to hit it again.
Well today was my leg day and my SLDL and Squats have improved.
I strongly suspect that it was just a localised rear delt issue I was dealing with.

Thanks for the reply bro.
 
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