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thebadguy54

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Hey guys,

I'm cutting my 15 weeks Test, 14 weeks E Q cycle short since I hurt my back and can't train. I'm rolling into post cycle therapy next week.

I have a small lump under my left nip so I want to do P C T and get rid of my lump at the same time. Do you think this would work?

5 days after last test shot:
1,000 IUs H C G - 3x/wk in combination with 0.5mg Letrozole ED and 50 mgs Clomid ED for the first 3 weeks.
After, discontinue H C G and continue with 50 mgs Clomid ED for an additional 3 weeks.
 
too much hcg bro, never shoot more than 500ius at one time as it may increase gyno symptoms. no need for the clomid untill 2 weeks after last shot of test, 50mg ED is perfect.
 
xrsist said:
too much HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - bro, never shoot more than 500ius at one time as it may increase gynecomastia symptoms. no need for the clomid untill 2 weeks after last shot of test, 50mg ED is perfect.

My doctor prescribed HCG is ran at 1000iu EOD for a total of 10,000iu.
Its a HRT doctor.

Just saying..
 
MorganKane said:
My doctor prescribed HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - is ran at 1000iu EOD for a total of 10,000iu.
Its a HRT doctor.

Just saying..

i have heard of it being run this way. as we know h c g can increase estro in some if using too much in one hit. and seeing he has a sensitive nip already i wouldnt recomend him using 1000iu in one hit. my opnion is less is better with any drug as long as its still working..
 
The first time I used it I shot the whole 5000 iu at once... lol... 2500 in each cheek. I'm NOT saying it's the best way but over 500 iu's at once has been done before by many.

Your point about the gyno makes sense tho. How about 500 iu's EOD until the entire 10000 iu's are done?
 
thebadguy54 said:
Hey guys,

I'm cutting my 15 weeks Test, 14 weeks E Q cycle short since I hurt my back and can't train. I'm rolling into post cycle therapy next week.

I have a small lump under my left nip so I want to do P C T and get rid of my lump at the same time. Do you think this would work?

5 days after last test shot:
1,000 IUs H C G - 3x/wk in combination with 0.5mg Letrozole ED and 50 mgs Clomid ED for the first 3 weeks.
After, discontinue H C G and continue with 50 mgs Clomid ED for an additional 3 weeks.
what week did you make it to bro????? and what were your doses??? then I can work with you.
 
needtogetaas said:
what week did you make it to bro????? and what were your doses??? then I can work with you.

The plan was
Week 1-15, 350 mg Enanthate / week
Week 1-14, 375 mg Equipoise / week

What I did was 1-11 Enth, 1-10 E Q. Week 11 (this week) I F'ed my back up bad and now I can't even walk... AND I have this god damn lump to deal with. I feel like a bag of smashed assholes.
 
thebadguy54 said:
I feel like a bag of smashed assholes.

:laugh2: LOL!! I really can't remember, do they sell them by the lb. or Qnty.? Smashed Assholes that is! I have a great domestic source for some Human Grade Smashed Assholes! PM me for it.
 
I feel like a bag of smashed assholes.[/QUOTE]

OMG! I think I hurt my back laughing!!!

Sorry about the back bro... that same shit has taken me out several times.
The last time I got back on my feet FAST by doing cortisone trigger point injections, anti compression table, ciro adjustments, and REST<<<
Man I feel for anyone that has back problems.
I'm sure a few bros will point you in the right direction.
bag of smashed assholes!!! Thats great!!!

Squat to you teabag the floor!!!
 
I'm glad you boys liked the bag of smashed a-holes line... lol... that's all I could think of to describe the way I'm feeling. Last week I was deadlifting 445 lbs. (at 200 lbs. body weight) and this week I can't even tie my own shoes!

Where is that crazy m f needto? He said he was going to help.

Anyone?? I'm starting PCT this Saturday.
 
Dam BigGuyPHX, where'd your Avatar? I didn't know there was Pics. of me on the Net.! Dam Ex-Girlfriends!
 
thebadguy54 said:
The plan was
Week 1-15, 350 mg Enanthate / week
Week 1-14, 375 mg Equipoise / week

What I did was 1-11 testosterone enanthate, 1-10 E Q. Week 11 (this week) I F'ed my back up bad and now I can't even walk... AND I have this god damn lump to deal with. I feel like a bag of smashed assholes.
how about 250iu's hcg oed for 3 weeks.keep the hcg dose low and spread it out and deal with the gyno..during the 3 weeks run the letro .5mg ed after first week if the lump is still there then up the letro 1mg ed.running the hcg at a lower dose will help from aggravating the gyno any more.then run the clomid 50mg ed for 3 weeks after that....if you get a rebound then clomid just ant going to cut it give me a shout if that happens.
 
OK... 250 iu HCG EOD for 3 weeks and 0.5 mg (or 1 mg) Letrozole ED sounds good...
Then 50mg Clomid ED for 3 weeks. Perfect.

So no Clomid with the HCG and Letro during the first 3 weeks???
 
gyle said:
Dam BigGuyPHX, where'd your Avatar? I didn't know there was Pics. of me on the Net.! Dam Ex-Girlfriends!


WTF??? Dude quit looking at my cock you fucking meat gazer!!! :p

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!

Squat to ya teabag the floor!!!
 
thebadguy54 said:
OK... 250 iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - EOD for 3 weeks and 0.5 mg (or 1 mg) Letrozole ED sounds good...
Then 50mg Clomid ED for 3 weeks. Perfect.

So no Clomid with the HCG and Femera - letrozole - during the first 3 weeks???
nope.I would really like to see you get some aromasin it works much better to transition into after letro to prevent a rebound...or even dermacrin sustain to go with the clomid but hay you may not rebound at all most people dont but some do so there is a chance and it would be good to have it.
 
I'm in Canada right now and the letrozole took forever to get here. I imagine the Dermacrin and Aromasin are going to take the same amount of time if I ordered them. You're advice is noted for future runs but I have to work with what I already have on hand this time.

This lump is so tiny that I almost thought it was already gone a couple of times. The doctor checked it and acted like it was no big deal.

I imagine (hope) once I stop injecting test and continue Letro and start the low dose HCG, the lump will be gone in no time.

Once it's gone I could take 20mg Nolva ED with the 50mg Clomid to prevent rebound, could I not?

By the way, thanks needto... I'm starting to see why the bro's on here love you so much.
 
thebadguy54 said:
I'm in Canada right now and the letrozole took forever to get here. I imagine the Dermacrin and Aromasin are going to take the same amount of time if I ordered them. You're advice is noted for future runs but I have to work with what I already have on hand this time.

This lump is so tiny that I almost thought it was already gone a couple of times. The doctor checked it and acted like it was no big deal.

I imagine (hope) once I stop injecting test and continue Femera - letrozole - and start the low dose HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , the lump will be gone in no time.

Once it's gone I could take 20mg Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ED with the 50mg Clomid to prevent rebound, could I not?

By the way, thanks needto... I'm starting to see why the bro's on here love you so much.
yes perfect nolva will work just fine I forgot you had it bro..
 
BigGuyPHX said:
WTF??? Dude quit looking at my cock you fucking meat gazer!!! :p

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!

Squat to ya teabag the floor!!!
Looks like you been hitting to hard with the igf .
Brad.
 
.5mg of letro isn't going to do shit to get rid of gyno. It will only keep it from getting worse in my opinion.

1.25 ED min to get rid of gyno. Some people take 2.5mg ED but ur sex drive will be non-existent.
 
thebadguy54 said:
Hey guys,

I'm cutting my 15 weeks Test, 14 weeks E Q cycle short since I hurt my back and can't train. I'm rolling into post cycle therapy next week.

I have a small lump under my left nip so I want to do P C T and get rid of my lump at the same time. Do you think this would work?

5 days after last test shot:
1,000 IUs H C G - 3x/wk in combination with 0.5mg Letrozole ED and 50 mgs Clomid ED for the first 3 weeks.
After, discontinue H C G and continue with 50 mgs Clomid ED for an additional 3 weeks.
How do you think you F'ed your back up?Deadlift,bent barbell row,squat????
 
bigmodean said:
How do you think you F'ed your back up?Deadlift,bent barbell row,squat????

I went to hard for too long. Now that I look back at my training notes I did something that involved low back 5 days in a row. That is normal for me but I guess my body needed rest and I didn't give it... so it gave out.

I compete in a strogman type competition and I was doing lots of training for that... lifting akward objects, running with weights in your hands, etc.

So leading up to my injury here is what I did:

Day 1
For time complete the following:
10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 reps of the triplet:
Deadlift: 1 1/2 x body weight (315 lbs. for me)
Bench Press: 1 x body weight (205 lbs. for me)
Clean: 3/4 x body weight (155 lbs. for me)

So that works out to be 55 reps of 315 lb. deadlift. That workout takes about 30 mins to complete.

Day 2
Front squats
135 lbs. x 20
135 lbs. x 15
185 lbs. x 5
185 lbs. x 5
185 lbs. x 5
185 lbs. x 5
185 lbs. x 5
205 lbs. x 3
205 lbs. x 3
205 lbs. x 3
225 lbs. x 1
225 lbs. x 1
225 lbs. x 1

Day 3
135 lb. Clean and Jerk, 30 reps for time (done in under 5 mins)

Day 4
Strong man type workout... grueling, painful stuff... car pushes, tire flips, etc.

Day 5
Strong man type workout... This is when I hurt my back lifting an akward object. It was only 200 lbs. and I can DL over 400 but I was just tired and my technique must have been off.
 
perryscoon said:
.5mg of Femera - letrozole - isn't going to do shit to get rid of gynecomastia. It will only keep it from getting worse in my opinion.

1.25 ED min to get rid of gynecomastia. Some people take 2.5mg ED but ur sex drive will be non-existent.

I agree... I'm doing half the dropper... so approx. 1.25mg... I think it's working!!
 
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