Help please, test/deca

[tony1354142]

Hey bros,
I know, deca has a bad name. But it is my choice over tren...researched tren and I have my reasons. I just finished a test E 500mg a week with anavar 60mg daily at the end. I had good gains, but lost it cause of poor pct. Will not happen again....now here's my dilemma. I want to add a bulk cycle. U wanna do deca but caber is so pricey. Legit caber any way. I was thinking

Week 1-12 test E 500mg
Week 1-10 deca 250........OR
Week 1-8 Deca 300mg

Now I didn't list my ai or pct yet but just look at that for a sec....is caber absolutely necessary with deca as low as 250 or 300 for 8 weeks? Can I just run prami? And if I can run prami, at what mg and how often. If caber is a must then I just as soon just run a test cycle and up the test with a bad ass diet cuz I'm all about diet anyway. I use to live the natty lifestyle and diet is key even with gear. And if I'm looking for bulk any suggestions on test dosage? 500mg weekly usually is the limit cuz I believe sides outweigh the benefits at that dosage but if I run test e 500mg and add some prop with it and bring it 750mg or somethin thought maybe that might be the way to go. Id like to run deca though but not with caber at the price it is. If I can run just prami then heres my cycle

Week 1-12 test E 500mg
Week 1-10 deca 250
Week 1-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 1-10 prami ?mg e?d
Week 10-14 hcg 500iu weekly
Pct
Week 10-14 clomid 50/50/25/25
Daa power chews

 

[dylangemelli]

you can always sub prami for caber but the sides are fucking terrible and caber just works much better... i would run npp as opposed to deca man... it would be a better option for you...

 

[joeblow12345]

I agree with Dylan on npp. That's the better option with an 8-10 week cycle. To get the optimal results from decca I feel 12 weeks is the minimum to run it with 16 being optimal IMO. Prami will suffice with decca if you can tolerate it. If you do decide to run decca then this is what id do.

1-20 test 500 mg week
1-16 decca 300 mg week
1-20 adex as needed
1-20 caber or prami as needed
4-8 hcgen
8-12 hcg 500 ius twice week
12-18 hcgen
18-22 hcg 2500 ius week

Pct 22-28
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed
Forma
Daa
Ostarine

28-34 bridge from Ntbm

If you don't wanna do a long cycle then.

1-10 test p 100 mg eod, or 50 mg test transdermal Ed
1-8 npp 100 mg eod
1-10 adex
1-10 caber or prami
6-10 hcg or hcgen

Pct 10-14
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed
Daa
Forma- if needed

 

[tony1354142]

Ok this deca and Npp is just turning me off from nandrolone all together. Any other compounds I can run with test where I don't need caber or prami. In other words another roid I can run with test E that doesn't raise my prolactin levels? Eq? Not a fan of orals but I'm open to suggestions. Or should I run another Test like test without ester or or prop? Just wanna put on mass and I'll trim down later. I appreciate the feedback Dylan. U've helped me in the past. U too joeblow although I think ur cycles are more for the incredible hulk than myself lol maybe one day I'll build to that cycle but the shorter cycle was alright ...I'm just over nandrolone lol

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok this deca and Npp is just turning me off from nandrolone all together. Any other compounds I can run with test where I don't need caber or prami. In other words another roid I can run with test E that doesn't raise my prolactin levels? Eq? Not a fan of orals but I'm open to suggestions. Or should I run another Test like test without ester or or prop? Just wanna put on mass and I'll trim down later. I appreciate the feedback Dylan. U've helped me in the past. U too joeblow although I think ur cycles are more for the incredible hulk than myself lol maybe one day I'll build to that cycle but the shorter cycle was alright ...I'm just over nandrolone lol

Test, eq, tbol front and anavar on the back

 

[tony1354142]

Eq at what mg. 250 a week? And what's up with masteron? Is that isn't a 19 nor is it. God that might sound stupid. I'm researchin while I ask u this.

 

[joeblow12345]

Eq at what mg. 250 a week? And what's up with masteron? Is that isn't a 19 nor is it. God that might sound stupid. I'm researchin while I ask u this.

In order to get the full benefits of eq it needs to be ran a minimum of 16 weeks and at least 600 mg. so it may not be for you. If you just want a basic 10 week bulker then test is great, you could also run a dbol or Superdrol transdermal along side it. Dbol will cause some bloat but still very good at putting on mass. Superdrol will not bloat and have very similar effects in regards to mass and strength gains. The benefit of the transdermals is there's no stress on your liver so you could run it the full 10 weeks with test.
If you want more info on them the link is in my sig. Also mast isn't a nandrolone so no need for caber, but its more for getting lean and hard not mass.

 

[dylangemelli]

masteron is not a 19 nor and bro, you need to read a lot more... you should know a lot more than you do by now! i don't mind helping you at all but you've been at this for a while... unless your around 10% or under body fat then there's no point in running masteron... like joe said with eq, you need to run it 16 weeks... i wouldn't go under 600 mg either...

 

[rambleJ535]

you can always sub prami for caber but the sides are fucking terrible and caber just works much better... i would run npp as opposed to deca man... it would be a better option for you...

This, I would go with camber over prami. Prami had me sick as hell when taking it. I will never touch it again

 

[tony1354142]

Yea dylan,
But I never was interested in masteron. Never looked it up and when I went to the site that I like for steroid profiles and it wasn't there. But I found it and I see the deal on it. That's a lot of eq huh? Prolly not. I trust dylans word tho. Thing is there's a money issue and I know this isn't a deal u wanna skimp on. This is serious business but once you start buying ai and all the pct it gets kinda pricey. Would upping the test to 700mg and just diet like a badass be a bad idea? I was thinking of
12 weeks of sust 500mg week and adding 200mg if cyp a week. Again just trying to bulk and with a optimal pct I should retain a de my amount of gains. Or is 700mg too much test to really benifit over 500mg? Idk. Brainstorming. I'm not necessarily askin for u guys to tell me my cycle, just getting diff opinions, lol I know what ur gonna say Dylan....just go easy on me.