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badguysingh

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. I would really appericiate if u help me .... i did a few pro hormone cycles and last time didnt do any ptc ... I know it was stupid of me ... Nd i learned da hard way ... And the prohormone cycles were no longer than a month.... Nd da last cycle was a year ago... I still havent recovered and i need ur help... My libido nd erections r there but not hard ons..... Im 25 years old.6'2 nd 205lbs..... 15% bodyfat
My bloodwork last month was
testosterone 400 nd 16.7
Lh.. 5.7
fsh...5.0
estrogen ..30

My doc put me on anastanzol 1mg per day To block estrogen
... I dont want 2 go on TRT which he recomended nd is there a way if i can get my test levels bak up. Plz help me ....
 
Hi BGS

Your testosterone levels aren't really low at all if I'm right in deducing your total is 400 and your free/bioavailable T is 16.7. However, it seems your testes aren't producing as much as they could and should do.
You can see this from the levels of Leutinising hormone and FSH, which ideally would be more toward the low end of the range. It's much akin to likening your testes and LH/FSH as car gears and your testosterone as the revs: Your in 2nd gear and at 5,500rpm at the moment, instead of 5th gear at 2,000rpm. Your testes are basically over-reving to produce your amount of testosterone.

I do think you're right in rejecting TRT at the moment though. There are other ways to try without commiting to HRT. Your doctor is right in prescribing Anastrazole to get your E2 down, because that is quite clearly too high. If the E2 comes down, then the amount of free or active testosterone you have at disposal will increase. This may also go some way in reducing the LH and FSH levels too.

Did you get your Prolactin levels measured? Prolactin can certainly have a negative effect on libido and erection quality. Nevertheless, sorting oestrogen out will hopefully sort out some of the symptoms for you.

I know there are some excellent supplements on Needtobuildmuscle/Mr Supplements (here on EF) that can increase natural levels of testosterone siginificantly, and aren't pro-hormones. Hopefully, some members who have experience and knowledge in these supplements can help you out there. I know Tribulus is one option you might consider for increasing sex drive. It doesn't work for everybody but a good percentage of guys do feel it heightens sexual pleasure and erections, while boosting testosterone levels naturally.

You might also consider these easy and cheap measures:
Vitamin D
Zinc
Vitamin C
Potassium
Omega 3 fish oil.

Hope this helps, and good luck!
 
Thanks bro 4 ur reply.... Yeah my prolactine came back as 19 nd the normal range was 1- 17 so it was jus a lil high but doc said its ok nd not high its normal.... but wat u guys think where should da prolactine levels b at ??? wats normal levels .... but im jus confused wat 2 do .... When ur down nd hurt eveything jus seems confusing like should i take this or dat or etc.... like would adding clomid would b a good idea .. Im currently taking 1mg of anastanzol a day ...
 
made so ChANgEs 2 this so All INFo. is UP 2 date..... any 1 with great knowledge plzz help me ... . I would really appericiate if u help me .... i did a few pro hormone cycles and last time didnt do any ptc ... I know it was stupid of me ... Nd i learned da hard way ... And the prohormone cycles were no longer than a month.... Nd da last cycle was a year ago... I still havent recovered and i need ur help... My libido nd erections r there but not hard ons.....I feel really low and im scared dat im going down hill .. Im 25 years old.6'2 nd 205lbs..... 15% bodyfat
My bloodwork 6 months ago dat i took at 1235 was
testosterone 480 ng/dl
Free T 14 pg/ml
Lh.. 5.7
estrogen ..27

Then took a second blood test with my new doc last month nd he said my old test was taken at noon so its no good so i took this 1 830 am
Testosterone =400
Free T =is 65 pg/ml
Tsh = 2.36 miu/ml
Estrogen 30
Lh is 5.1
prolactine = 17.5 ng/ml
My doc put me on anastanzol 1mg per day To block estrogen
... I dont want 2 go on TRT which he recomended nd is there a way if i can get my test levels bak up. Plz help me .... any expericed ppl plzzz help me .... God bless ....
 
Hi BGS

You don't need Clomid if your doc's prescribed Anastrozol. This should bring your E2 level down and in turn - hopefully - will bring down prolactin. While 17 isn't considered high for prolactin, it's still way higher than ideal levels in males. Ideally, this ought to be in the lower single figures. Do you suffer with a very low libido and sexual desire? Do you get weak and infrequent erections? These would be symptoms in line with problematic prolactin levels, but it isn't a serious health risk in itself.

Anyway, if the anastrazol is effective and given a few weeks to be fully beneficial, prolactin and oestrogens will hopefully fall and this in turn will free up more testosterone to be active in the blood and tissues.
This, may, help you avoid any need for HRT. However, if your doctor feels you situation will benefit from HRT, why are you so averse to the suggestion?

Your doctor is probably going to prescribe you a topical gel that needs to be applied once or twice daily to your upper arms and shoulders. If you're planning on fathering children in the future he can withdraw treatment for an interim period and prescribe you HCG to get your testes producing fully again. When you're done with having a family, you can revert back to the gel solution.

If you're really that against the idea of therapy, you might consider using T boosting supplements: Tribulus etc. There's all sorts of non-steroid non-prohormonal boosters on Mr. Supplements/Needtobuildmuscle.

At the end of the day though, if you need HRT then you must accept the fact that - at now at least - you'll be feeling much better and then you can look at longer term alternatives when you're in a better state of mind and body.

Hope this helps.

Craig
 
Thanks LAbtec
yeah im jus scared if my levels dont go bak up 2 notmal i have 2 get on TRT nd its jus a scary thing 4 me like u have 2 b on 4 da rest of ur life !!! im only 26 nd how long can i stay on this i mean 10 year 20 years may b less or more side effects etc.....like if some 1 gets on TRt how long can they live like dats my main concern .... I wanna feel normal again nd live a helathy life nd have a family .... i have errections now but there not as hard or hard ons! and i jus feel depressed sometimes jus thinking about it like what it my levels keep dropping etc.... I wany Trt 2 b my last resort after i have tried everythin.... so i jus started this im currenly talking
"1mg anastanzol daily nd .5caber twice a week 2 lower prolactine nd phytoserm 347 1 cap am nd 1 pm for a month and see where lands me ... any Expert advice would b very helpful nd thanks 4 reading or replying 2 my post
God bless ...
 
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