help me narrow down my cycle

[eddie1]

Im gonna run:

500mg test e weeks 1-12
400mg EQ weeks 1-12


This is where I need your help picking on my orals and pct. pick 2 orals....

Anavar @ 80mg for 7 + weeks
Tbol @ 40mg for 6 weeks
Winny @ 40mg for 7 weeks

PCT:
Nolva
Clomid
Proviron
Aromasin or A-dex

Let me know what u think? My goals are a lean bulk, would like to get a little bigger and more vascular. I'm 23 6'4'' and 240lbs with a bf around 13. I am not a novice ive done around 5 cycles. I will be running merida with it because i think the stuff is great helps me eat very clean. thanks

 

[GymIntensity]

Im gonna run:

500mg test e weeks 1-12
400mg EQ weeks 1-12


This is where I need your help picking on my orals and pct. pick 2 orals....

Anavar @ 80mg for 7 + weeks
Tbol @ 40mg for 6 weeks
Winny @ 40mg for 7 weeks

PCT:
Nolva
Clomid
Proviron
Aromasin or A-dex

Let me know what u think? My goals are a lean bulk, would like to get a little bigger and more vascular. I'm 23 6'4'' and 240lbs with a bf around 13. I am not a novice ive done around 5 cycles. I will be running merida with it because i think the stuff is great helps me eat very clean. thanks

Bro, I'd run var at 60mg for 6 to 8 weeks. I've ran tbol for 3 weeks with decent gains, added a "small" boost for my EQ cycle. I ran var for 5 days and within 5 days I felt major strength compared to the tbol. I quit runnin the var because I was getting insane migraines that lasted all day everyday. Also the var will add little weight to you and great strength, when the tbol and winny will add a little extra weight compared to the var. Winny kills joints, so that could be a problem on your large frame. As far as what you have listed for pct, I would definately do a nolva/clomid combo. Run the proviron ED throughout cycle if you want to minimize bloat / estro .

gluck bro

 

[eddie1]

Bro, I'd run var at 60mg for 6 to 8 weeks. I've ran tbol for 3 weeks with decent gains, added a "small" boost for my EQ cycle. I ran var for 5 days and within 5 days I felt major strength compared to the tbol. I quit runnin the var because I was getting insane migraines that lasted all day everyday. Also the var will add little weight to you and great strength, when the tbol and winny will add a little extra weight compared to the var. Winny kills joints, so that could be a problem on your large frame. As far as what you have listed for pct, I would definately do a nolva/clomid combo. Run the proviron ED throughout cycle if you want to minimize bloat / estro .

gluck bro

ive ran var last cycle @ 80 mg day and didnt notice any sides. do u think i should just run the var weeks 1-12 @ 80 then?

 

[GymIntensity]

ive ran var last cycle @ 80 mg day and didnt notice any sides. do u think i should just run the var weeks 1-12 @ 80 then?

bro, i would never run an oral past 8 weeks. Also, var is extremely harsh on lipid profile so no way would I run var at 80mg for 12 weeks. thats just my personal preference. some bros on here have ran it at 100mg ED for 6 plus weeks but the ones that got bloodwork done had a destroyed cholesterol level and many of them opted to not even use orals again. if you run it at 80 or above I wouldn't go past 6 weeks just because i would be concerned of cholesterol.

 

[eddie1]

bro, i would never run an oral past 8 weeks. Also, var is extremely harsh on lipid profile so no way would I run var at 80mg for 12 weeks. thats just my personal preference. some bros on here have ran it at 100mg ED for 6 plus weeks but the ones that got bloodwork done had a destroyed cholesterol level and many of them opted to not even use orals again. if you run it at 80 or above I wouldn't go past 6 weeks just because i would be concerned of cholesterol.

ok ya i understand i never had blood work done. dont want the family and gf to find out. is there anything i should run with the var besides milk thistle to help out with lipids and protection? what if i ran the var @ 6 weeks and ran another oral before or after? i just ran the var londer before b/c i know its like the safest oral as far as sides

 

[Ulter]

Anavar the first 6 and winny the next 6.

All steroids upset your lipid profile. It's nothing to worry about. There is no evidence that short term flucuations in your chol levels cause CAD. Lipid Profiles are used as a predictor of future CAD. It takes many years of being sedentary and eating poorly for this prediction to come true. It doesn't happen in a 3 month steroid cycle.

 

[eddie1]

Anavar the first 6 and winny the next 6.

All steroids upset your lipid profile. It's nothing to worry about. There is no evidence that short term flucuations in your chol levels cause CAD. Lipid Profiles are used as a predictor of future CAD. It takes many years of being sedentary and eating poorly for this prediction to come true. It doesn't happen in a 3 month steroid cycle.

so then y not var for 12 weeks instead of spliting it between winny/var? just wondering if var is suppose to be alot better than winny?

 

[Ulter]

You're doing a 12 week cycle. Gains slow considerable around week 8. If you change gears in the middle of the cycle you'll grow better through to the 12th week.

 

[eddie1]

You're doing a 12 week cycle. Gains slow considerable around week 8. If you change gears in the middle of the cycle you'll grow better through to the 12th week.

I gettcha Ulter, thanks. Just wanting to know your opinion on why not tbol instead of Winny (If i run tbol weeks 1-5 and var weeks 5-12)? Just curious thanks.

 

[eddie1]

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[Ulter]

Forget the Tbol use the winny there

 

[Vascular Freak]

The cycle looks great as well as Ultes advice on the var for the first 6 and winny for the last.

One thing I will add is that if you are naturally endomorphic or have a hard time keeping lean or acheiving that "hard look" winstrol throughout will do wonders for your overall look. Var will give a little more size but on a "softer-bodied" individual using 40mg winstrol for the first 6 weeks and 60mg for the last 6 is phenomenal. I ran a similar cycle this summer and the eq and winstrol together was insane.

 

[dsh89]

Yeah I would say Var the first 6 weeks, Winny the last 6 weeks.

 

[MR. BMJ]

I agree with Ulter, except i'd bump the Winny to 50mg/d....100mg/d would be ideal if it doesn't wreck your joints.

BMJ