Help me decide... 600 or 800mg of EQ?

[JoNeS]

OK my stats, 185lbs / 10% bf / 6 ft

Cycle Histories 1st 10 weeks 250 sust, 200 deca weekly

2nd. 20 weeks 400mg EQ weekly, 25mg winny weeks 15-23

3rd. 8 weeks 40mg anavar, 50mg winny daily

Long Term Goal: 205 lbs with @ 10% or lower

Proposed 4th cycle: 1-16 600mg EQ each week .... should I go 800mg?
1-8 50mg anavar each day
13-19 50mg winny each day

Ok heres the deal. I am going for LEAN MASS only, I want to slap on some pounds, but keep my abs, and not go above 10%. Will upping the EQ to 800 make a noticeable difference from 600? Or should I stay with 600?

*Side note, I am limited in my gear choices, because a good chunk of my income is from modelling. So no Acne / Bloat. So no Test / Deca / Fina

 

[Güclü_oglan]

20lbs of muscle is impossible with those cycles bro, i would suggest primo(but still 20lbs of muscle wouldn't be possible), look around for homebrewing and make your own primo bro if it's way to expensive

 

[JoNeS]

20lbs of muscle is impossible with those cycles bro, i would suggest primo(but still 20lbs of muscle wouldn't be possible), look around for homebrewing and make your own primo bro if it's way to expensive

Yea, I know. I said "Long term" goal is 20 lbs of muscle.

 

[UA_Iron]

800.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

800.

^

 

[JoNeS]

Also guys, would you change the order or the amount of gear I use? I could go winny and var together for the last 8 weeks, but I thought it be better to front load with var while waiting for the EQ to kick in.

Or maybe do 12 weeks of var? Then the winny?

Also, what about gettin real nasty, and just running 50mg winny / var throughout? or something along those lines?

What do you guys think?

 

[sparetire]

i never noticed anything between 600 and 800 eq. if you can get your hands on primo, that would def. be the way..

 

[JoNeS]

bump ............

 

[nishnish]

i'm about to go down the same road... trying to source info on the risks associated with the elevated RBC count that equipoise brings about. everyone i have talked to has always said to "front load" at 800 mgs and go down from there, slowly tapering off as you go. the consensus also seems to be that the cycle need to be long, somewhere between 12-14 weeks in length to get the best results, so i would work out your total mgs and divide them by how many weeks you want to stretch it out...

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Also guys, would you change the order or the amount of gear I use? I could go winny and var together for the last 8 weeks, but I thought it be better to front load with var while waiting for the EQ to kick in.

Or maybe do 12 weeks of var? Then the winny?

Also, what about gettin real nasty, and just running 50mg winny / var throughout? or something along those lines?

What do you guys think?

if you're modeling, the eq will make you hungry as fizzuck....so what I would do if you want to use winstrol and var is to start the cycle with winny and end with var....var suppresses appetite and once that eq kicks in..you're gonna need an app. suppres. especially if you're cutting which im assuming. 12 weeks of orals = not a good idea. Var is the easiest oral on the liver, so you can run it longer than winstrol, dont run the winny longer than 6 weeks though..take Tylers Liv with all your orals

 

[pentatonic]

If 400mg EQ worked good before, why increase it? If it was me and I were to increase, I would go with 600mg. I've taken EQ at 400 and at 600 and I don't think there was any difference between the two dosages. That's just me though.

 

[UA_Iron]

I cant say I saw anything at 400mg/week of EQ

if anything the test was playing the part in gains.

 

[concordsize]

i have seen guys on up to 1600mg of eq. I personally would not do that but it happens. Eq does infact impact your red blood cell count. I think for an advanced user 800-1000mg test and 800mg eq is a great cycle. When i take eq i always take 1/2 an aspirin every day.

 

[JoNeS]

One more time

 

[Growth&Courage]

Seriously, I don't think you should be stressing too much on the choice b/w 600-800mg. Seeing that leanness, flawless skin, clearly defined abs plus the general overall good & healthy looks is the ticket to male modelling world I would say why not try both?
Start off with 800 for some time then reduced down to a maintainable dose @ 600mg. During this experimental phase you'll be able to find out at what dosage matches more of your requirements: blemish-free skin; 10% or some reduction of bf measurement and an overall lean weight gains.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Seriously, I don't think you should be stressing too much on the choice b/w 600-800mg. Seeing that leanness, flawless skin, clearly defined abs plus the general overall good & healthy looks is the ticket to male modelling world I would say why not try both?
Start off with 800 for some time then reduced down to a maintainable dose @ 600mg. During this experimental phase you'll be able to find out at what dosage matches more of your requirements: blemish-free skin; 10% or some reduction of bf measurement and an overall lean weight gains.

damn bro...quadzilla in tha house over here!