HELP I think I got gyno!!

[sparetire]

I'm not sure what Georgie24 is basing his opinions on, but that sounds exactly like gyno. The surgery is not going to be covered by insurance from everything I've heard no matter what you say to the doc. Plus, the nipple never looks right after the surgery. You're just kind of fucked bro.

Really? You might want to listen up then! My gyno surgery with LIPO was covered by INS!!! 5500$ all covered! I payed about 75$ co-pay and 25% of the hospital bed , 285$ .. and wah-lah.

First: get bc/bs PPO.
Second: Find a plastic surgeon who is on the Bc/Bs doctor list.
Thirdly: Tell him that you had it since puberty and it hasn't been that much of a problem until you lost weight recently and it started hurting. My doc asked me how much weight that I had lost and I told him about 30 pounds.

You might want to make sure that you can get the funds if bc/bs doesn't pay for it, but, they paid for it in my case. I have heard plenty of others here on this board who has bc/bs PPO - which either paid partially for the surgery or the full thing. It's worth a shot anyhow..

 

[macrophage69alpha]

chemical reduction should be the first line of attack with any form of gyno (be it hard tissue, ductal expansion, pectoral feminization or pseudogyncomastia), though some cases may require surgery.

the insurance issue is mixed and will depend on both diagnosis and carrier.

 

[maxspeed96ct]

I started spraying aifm (gona try 2 pumps a day). And my friend has some nolvadex he never used and can spare so im gona try a very small dosage of that. how long should i try it out for , 3-4 weeks at 10mg a day?

I could have had this for years, throughout high school I was about 225-240lbs at my worst , at 5-10. So i figured I just had fat boobies

Now im 5-11 190lbs, losing the fat everywere ,getting some good definition everywere but in my chest area ,as I been training hard for the past 3 years its now becoming more noticable.


As for the insurance, i hope im coverd if I have to take taht road, hopefully not.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

are you using yohimburn on your chest? this should help with the "fat" part.

and if you have fat "boobies" that means that estrogen and possibly prolactin levels have been generally high for a while (estrogenic fat pattern).

higher bodyfat generally means higher natural aromatase production (fat is a producer of aromatase). give AIFM and yohimburn some time to reduce the problem before even considering surgery. keeping in mind that it took time for this problem to develop.

it seems like you mainly have fat and some puffyness, with only a small amount of hard tissue (which is good).

 

[maxspeed96ct]

are you using yohimburn on your chest? this should help with the "fat" part.

and if you have fat "boobies" that means that estrogen and possibly prolactin levels have been generally high for a while (estrogenic fat pattern).

higher bodyfat generally means higher natural aromatase production (fat is a producer of aromatase). give AIFM and yohimburn some time to reduce the problem before even considering surgery. keeping in mind that it took time for this problem to develop.

it seems like you mainly have fat and some puffyness, with only a small amount of hard tissue (which is good).

Since yesterday I stoped the yoshiburn, and started aifm.

I was planing on cycling them back and fourth every 2 weeks.

2 weeks of aifm only
next 2 weeks yes and trex only

Would that be ok?

I have faith in your products cause i noticed mid cycle when i started using the aifm me sex drive went crazier than it was on the test alone and it seemed to get rid of some of puffyness in my face ..

 

[holder]

Macro that is interesting about spraying the AIFM on your nips. Ive never heard that before. During a cycle if your nipples are getting sore do you recommend the same and if Im using 2 sprays 3times a day how many should I put on my nipples?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

use the AIFM the whole time (1-2 pumps per day)- cut back to 1 if you feel too dry (joint wise), and do light(1/4 pump per) PM application directly on nipples (before bed), clean site with witch hazel and rub in well. Use yohimburn prior to cardio/training. ideally, though you can just see what the AIFM does and then add yohimburn back in after a couple weeks (that is also a good course of action)

your AIFM dosing probably could have been higher on cycle and would have been better to use an AI the entire cycle. if you have an estro fat pattern its good to err on the side of higher suppression, you can always back it off.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Macro that is interesting about spraying the AIFM on your nips. Ive never heard that before. During a cycle if your nipples are getting sore do you recommend the same and if Im using 2 sprays 3times a day how many should I put on my nipples?

1/4 pump per nipple. clean site with witch hazel, rub in well.

all the info is anecdotal (user reports), though since there is some local affect its theoretically sound.

 

[Anthony Starks]

note- stop fiddling with nipples, such can stimulate prolactin release and tissue growth.

Macro, do you have link to research on that (tissue growth from touching)? I've never seen any before so I always thought it was sort of an old wives tale type thing, but I'd love to learn something new. Thanks for the help, always appreciated.

 

[Anthony Starks]

Really? You might want to listen up then! My gyno surgery with LIPO was covered by INS!!! 5500$ all covered! I payed about 75$ co-pay and 25% of the hospital bed , 285$ .. and wah-lah.

Congratulations on being the exception to the rule bro, seriously. I fucking hate ins companies and I hope you soaked them for every penny, but the fact is (again, so I've heard) that most people get denied.