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[Yellowbottle]

I have been on a cycle for quite sometime now. Lately I have not been feeling so well and last night suffered from an anxiety attack. Do you bros think its time to cut my cycle short(winny and fina)and end things, or should I just taper off. I have about two weeks of winny left and three of the the fina. I am taking 75mg winny ed, fina eod. Please let me know, I am sure I have high BP but I know this is normal, but would love ways to combat these things and finish out my cutting cycle. Plan on taking 4 months off after this to just train hard natural. All the info would be helpful.

 

[liquidmuscle]

my buddy gets those "attacks" all the time he IS a cokehead and everytime he gets all jacked up he gets anxiety attacks and he continues to keep on doing more its sad most of the time i just have to sit him down and chill him out and then he's o.k but in all respect i am not a doctor and if i were you i would get checked out tell him everything,,tell him you are on cycle and everything else that concerns your health..the doc cannot call the police on you so dont worry about gettin busted

 

[1Banshee]

Hey Yellowbottle, there was a recent discussion you should check out regarding anxiety attacks:

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=44958&highlight=anxiety

 

[Yellowbottle]

My question is should I stop my cycle, my doc is not back in town until next wensday. If I should stop my cycle do I start taking clomids or just wait till i see my doc. I dont have a regualar doc but he is the closest thing. Have never had any problems in my life, but know I am not feeling 100% right now, so what should I do and what about my cycle.

 

[Yellowbottle]

But how can you tell when its anxiexty or if there is just soemthing else wrong with you. Last night my heart was racey and I could not sit down, I had an dupset stomach and now I have a sor throught (probably has nothing to do with my racey heart.)never have had anxiety or high BP but sure AS could cause the High BP. So what is my next step until I can get over to see my doc.

 

[1Banshee]

Unfortunately for me at least I would stop the cycle, not taper. This really depends on how YOU feel!! I know me and my body is very good at telling me when I am pushing my luck. I would have to assume yours is the same, and it sure sounds like it trying to tell you... Again, you know you, is it time????

 

[Yellowbottle]

So if I just stop than what do I do. Obviously if it is soemthing my system will fix it self pretty quick being that I am fairly young, but what should my next step be

 

[Squats]

Quick!! stop your cycle and send me all your gear!!

squats

 

[1Banshee]

If you feel that is the path you should take, then start your post cycle therapy.... Clomid at least, and possibly Proviron to improve your moods, sex drive and as an anti-e. Proviron will help you avoid any kind of androgen crash... If you don't have it then Clomid will do... I would start with 300mg day 1, followed by 100mg pd for 2 weeks. After that you may want to taper to 50mg, depends on how you feel and look...

By the way bro, how is your training?? Is it possible some of this is being caused by overtraining? The symptoms you describe would be consistent with overtraining?? Also of course a less than adequete diet / nutrition??

 

[Yellowbottle]

I eat really clean and I eat a-lot, I could be worn out due to over trainning, actually took today off and feel better. Still think I am going to stop, maybe wait a few days and if so will jump right on the clomids. It just sucks because I was starting to look really fucking good, best of my life and I am sure the next few weeks especially with the fina would be out of control. If i take about a month off what would be good to do just for maintaince, I was think 400mgs of EG. Get back to me

 

[1Banshee]

I eat really clean and I eat a-lot, I could be worn out due to over trainning, actually took today off and feel better. Still think I am going to stop, maybe wait a few days and if so will jump right on the clomids. It just sucks because I was starting to look really fucking good, best of my life and I am sure the next few weeks especially with the fina would be out of control. If i take about a month off what would be good to do just for maintaince, I was think 400mgs of EG. Get back to me

Im sorry, EG???

 

[Yellowbottle]

EQ may bad, so what do you think? I feel like I am having a major crisis right now. Do any other bros feel like that, and has anyone ever had to cut a cycle sort. How do you deal with it.

 

[1Banshee]

If you feel a little better from taking a day off maybe its time to back off on the workouts, slightly give yourself more time to recover? I know when I overtrain it wrecks me, I feel like crap, appetite starts to sink, lethargic, moods are crap, ect.

Sorry, Im slow tonight!! During this month "off" you are thinking of using Eq while on the Clomid??? If that is the question, I would say no!! Don't use the Clomid while on the Eq. Either take the month or more off or don't. If your body is telling you it time to come off use the Clomid, continue to train (although possibly at a slightly lower level, especially if you feel you may be overtraining now), use all of the normal supplements (Creatine, Glutamine, Protein, vitamins, ect)

 

[Yellowbottle]

What I meant was say I stop my cycle now or greatly reduce it for the next week. Say 25mg winny ed just to taper, then start clomid for two weeks, than wait two weeks and use the EQ or primo until I start my winter cycle, all dependent on how my body feels of course.

 

[psroth]

75 winny ED might be a little high. Try cutting back to 50.

 

[1Banshee]

Sorry YB I told you I was alittle slow last night. Anyway that sounds to me like a good plan!!! Listen to your body bro, it will rarely lie... Good luck!!!