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Help For My First Cycle Karma If U Help Me:)

peligroso

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Well im almost 21 and im planing to do my first cycle i have almost 3 years training 5,8 180lb this is my cycle for mass


sostanon primobolan dbol
1 500mg 100mg 20mg
2 500mg 200mg 30mg
3 500mg 200mg 40mg
4 500mg 200mg 40mg
5 500mg 200mg 30mg
6 500mg 200mg 20mg
7 250mg 100mg
8 250mg 100mg

what do u think of it???
 
Keep the sust at 500mg all the way through. Drop the primo, you're only wasting your money at that dose. And 5wks of dbol is sufficient.
 
IMO, thats just not enough Primo. I dont like these cycles with fluctuating doses.

Why not just run:

Sust 500mg wks 1-8 or 10(my suggestion)
Dbol 25mg/day wks 1-4 or 6
 
I agree with both outlaw and DCC about dropping the primo and keeping the dose the same all the way through. I'm assuming that you were planning on dropping the dose so that your body would realize the drop and make up for it with it's own test. Unfortunately that isn't the case.
 
im planing for my post cycle using clomid for 15 days 50 mg per day and for gyno im planing on usinf tamoxifen 25mg per day and my diet 3800 calories and 200 mg of protein per day
 
peligroso said:
im planing for my post cycle using clomid for 15 days 50 mg per day and for gyno im planing on usinf tamoxifen 25mg per day and my diet 3800 calories and 200 mg of protein per day

Where'd you get 25mg Nolva?
 
Outtlaw said:
Keep the sust at 500mg all the way through. Drop the primo, you're only wasting your money at that dose. And 5wks of dbol is sufficient.

I firmly believe that everyone's first cycle should be a Test only cycle and Sust is an excellent choice. It'll give you goos constant gains. Take 500mg per week, and plan your PCT to start 3 weeks after your last Sus injection. This is because Sustanon has a half life of just over 3 weeks. If you want to use D-Bol at the doses you mentioned, that would be fine for the first 4 weeks, but I would recommend highly a Susta cycle only to start. You'll be very happy and impressed with your gains
 
I would keep the sust at the same dosage the whole way though. Some guys say take it twice a week and some say once. I do it once. I would drop the primo, and just do the sust and d-bol. Do the d-bol for 4 weeks and the sust for 8 or 10. Either way you are going to have great results. i too am almost 21, and on week 4 of sust 250 and 15mg ed of d-bol. I could only get enough d-bol to do it for 2 weeks, just to kick it off. I am doing 250 mg of the sust once a week. My problem was money. I would have done 4 weeks on d-bol 20mg ed and 500mg sust for 10 weeks. Good luck.
 
Im with the rest of the guys here sust and d-bols. Its your first cycle dont stack so many things to start. A friend of mine is about your hieght. He gained and keeped 15 pounds off just 10 amps of sust and some d-bols over 8 weeks. And try to get some hcg because he said the boys where pretty small after that. Hope I could help.
 
I would run sustenon at 500mgs ew week for ten weeks. Have your HCG and Clomid ready.
Save the Primo for a cycle in the summer.
I wouldnt use the dbol this time. its your first cycle and you don't need it.
You want to use one compound on your first one to see how you respond to it. If you add in other stuff you are not going to know how you react to each compound or if they both ever work for you!
Good Luck and post your results
BTW.. I gave you Karma for waiting until you were 21. There will be more on you way if you use PCT!!!
 
thanks well im going to use just sustanon for 8 weeks and clomid for the post cycle but how can i find hcg in mexico what is the name?? Ohh and other question to prevent gyne whats is the best nolvaldez tamoxifen arimex??
 
Its safe to inject by myself the susta for 8 weeks or it beter to go every week and tell the lady in the pharmacy to do it???
 
peligroso said:
Its safe to inject by myself the susta for 8 weeks or it beter to go every week and tell the lady in the pharmacy to do it???


Please tell me you're joking. If not, you have no business doing steroids yet.
You've got a lot of research that you still need to do.

In case you're not joking. Yes it is OK to inject yourself. Use a sterile syringe and needle every time. Make sure you wipe off the top of the vile with alcohol before extracting the sust.........god I hope you were joking.
 
I think that it is always good to have someone walk you through it the first time. I would talk to a friend,and not a lady at the pharmacy. My source walked me through it, plus I was a nursing student and pretty much knew how to do it.
 
yeah but i live in mexico and in mexico when u need to inject u go to the pharmacy and they do it no big deal i have a friend that is on cycle and he goes to the pharmacy and they do it they don't ask anything just inject..
 
peligroso said:
yeah but i live in mexico and in mexico when u need to inject u go to the pharmacy and they do it no big deal i have a friend that is on cycle and he goes to the pharmacy and they do it they don't ask anything just inject..
Sweet.
 
peligroso said:
yeah but i live in mexico and in mexico when u need to inject u go to the pharmacy and they do it no big deal i have a friend that is on cycle and he goes to the pharmacy and they do it they don't ask anything just inject..

Even still, just the fact that you don't know whether or not you can inject yourself shows that you haven't done enough research.

I'm not flaming you bro, we've all started out right where you are. Just saying that it would be wise to do a little more research about what you're getting yourself into.

Feel free to pm me if you have any questions that you're not sure about.
 
slat1 said:
I would run sustenon at 500mgs ew week for ten weeks. Have your HCG and Clomid ready.
Save the Primo for a cycle in the summer.
I wouldnt use the dbol this time. its your first cycle and you don't need it.
You want to use one compound on your first one to see how you respond to it. If you add in other stuff you are not going to know how you react to each compound or if they both ever work for you!
Good Luck and post your results
BTW.. I gave you Karma for waiting until you were 21. There will be more on you way if you use PCT!!!

sust is not the best test for a first timer enanth or cyp

also HCG should be used during not after your cycle its preventive not in reaction to..si its better to keep the nuts fuller rather than try to bring them back
 
dude i agree completely with the guys about 10 weeks of sust. but i the injection at the pharmacy thing i aint so sure about, granted i dont live in mexico but man... oh yea and one other thing i really feel that you should up your protein intake big time what you stated you were getting is no where near enuff. on cycle i like at least 2grams per pound.
 
why not just take anavar for your first cycle? maybe stack with a pro-hormone? Might get good enough gains to begin with (add whey protein and creatine also).

take thermorexin if your diet is crap.
 
well i have the susta for 8 weeks now.. and for the gyne what do u think is the best to buy arimex or nolva and how do i buy hgc i cant find it whats the name ..also for the post cycle just clomid???
 
peligroso said:
well i have the susta for 8 weeks now.. and for the gyne what do u think is the best to buy arimex or nolva and how do i buy hgc i cant find it whats the name ..also for the post cycle just clomid???

Arimidex - take .5mg ED through cycle, stop taking right before PCT.
Nolvadex - have on hand just in case gyno or bloat occurs, take 20-40mg ED until symptoms subside
Clomid - 50mg ED for all of PCT
HCG - MID-CYCLE: 1500 iu's 3x/week
POST-CYCLE: 1000 iu's 3x/week

Here's how your PCT should look:

HCG at 1000 iu 3x/week for first week along with Nolva at 20mg ED. Stop HCG. Keep running Nolva for 3 more weeks at 20mg ED. Clomid at 50mg ED for full PCT.

You need all of these compounds. Don't skip out.
 
hola bro tambien yo soy mexicano, el HCG se llama pregnyl en farmacia,compra la presentación de 2500 unidades internacionales x 10 ml (2500ui's/10ml), disuelve el liquido con la solución a la razón necesaria, por ej.(500ui's/ml) (disuelves solo la mitad del agua) ,inyectalo intramuscular en los hombros, ahi no duele, por cierto ¿de donde eres? mandame un email y con gusto te ayudo, yo ya hice un ciclo similar.
 
PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch said:
hola bro tambien yo soy mexicano, el HCG se llama pregnyl en farmacia,compra la presentación de 2500 unidades internacionales x 10 ml (2500ui's/10ml), disuelve el liquido con la solución a la razón necesaria, por ej.(500ui's/ml) (disuelves solo la mitad del agua) ,inyectalo intramuscular en los hombros, ahi no duele, por cierto ¿de donde eres? mandame un email y con gusto te ayudo, yo ya hice un ciclo similar.

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