help critique winny/primo/test e/t3 cycle

[Roy369]

33years old
6'3" 215 12-15%bf
5 cycles

Test e @250 wks.1-10
Primo @400 wks.1-10(I know some do 600+ but I've had great gains @ 400)
Winny @50 eod or ed? wks. 4-10
T3 @50 wks. 1-10???

I have a couple questions;

1)I have 20ml 100 of winny should I run it ed or eod and should I run I longer then 6 weeks?
2)how much/long should I run t3(functions are normal)and is tapering really needed at a low dose?
3)Do I need PCT for this cycle and what should it consist of? I'm unsure when to start
Thanks for the help my last cycle was 7+ years ago

 

[kwantz]

id use the winny to kickstart the cycle. Help prevent the muscle wasting from t3 until the longer esters kick in.
and you most def want to do a PCT....

 

[Roy369]

id use the winny to kickstart the cycle. Help prevent the muscle wasting from t3 until the longer esters kick in.
and you most def want to do a PCT....

So I should run the winny at the beginning of the cycle? I have 40 shots @ 50 so I'll run it @ 50 ed for the first 40 days. Is 50mcg of T3 ok for the entire 10 weeks? Also, when should I start PCT and what do I run? Thank you very much for your help.

 

[dylangemelli]

So I should run the winny at the beginning of the cycle? I have 40 shots @ 50 so I'll run it @ 50 ed for the first 40 days. Is 50mcg of T3 ok for the entire 10 weeks? Also, when should I start PCT and what do I run? Thank you very much for your help.

your not running your primo long enough... 14 - 16 weeks os how long you should run it... why would you run t3 on this cycle?? theres no point whatsoever... this is already a supet lean cycle and running t3 on it is inhibiting optimal muscle growth...

the fact your asking if you need a pct is pretty fucking scary bro...



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[Roy369]

your not running your primo long enough... 14 - 16 weeks os how long you should run it... why would you run t3 on this cycle?? theres no point whatsoever... this is already a supet lean cycle and running t3 on it is inhibiting optimal muscle growth...

the fact your asking if you need a pct is pretty fucking scary bro...



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I was going to run t3 to help burn off fat during my cutter, I thought that's what it was used for. Ok i need to run the primo longer, is there any other pointers you can give me. I dont think any thing I wrote is "scary" I haven't started anything yet, I'm on this site because I need help.

 

[dylangemelli]

I was going to run t3 to help burn off fat during my cutter, I thought that's what it was used for. Ok i need to run the primo longer, is there any other pointers you can give me. I dont think any thing I wrote is "scary" I haven't started anything yet, I'm on this site because I need help.

theres no need for t3 bro... test, primo and winstrol is going to cut you the fuck up if your diet and training are spot on...

bro im not trying to be a dick at all but if you dont know you need to run a pct on a test cycle then it truly is scary... this is the pct to run

clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol

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[Roy369]

theres no need for t3 bro... test, primo and winstrol is going to cut you the fuck up if your diet and training are spot on...

bro im not trying to be a dick at all but if you dont know you need to run a pct on a test cycle then it truly is scary... this is the pct to run

clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol

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Thank you very much! I'll get more primo and run it 14-16wks. and save the T3 for another cycle or get rid of it. I'll follow the PCT combo you gave me as well. I should run the test 14-16 wks also and is 250 ok? What about winny, I have 100mg/20ml bottle. I'm sorry I haven't run a cycle for many years I need to do more research before I start.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

I was going to run t3 to help burn off fat during my cutter, I thought that's what it was used for. Ok i need to run the primo longer, is there any other pointers you can give me. I dont think any thing I wrote is "scary" I haven't started anything yet, I'm on this site because I need help.

Yes, we understand. You need a pct!

Winny needs to be ed! 24 hr 1/2 life oral or inject I can see u dont really know much. So if oral you need a liver gaurd. Supps for bp, chloresterol. An I would run a light ai. What if you get gyno? What if hair starts falling out? To me you need some research ur cycle looks good DROP t-3 you have to tapper! Dont mess with this. Save it we'll use it later.

What ester of primo do u have? That determins length.

Id run winny on back end to dry out you prob gonna want sm joint support. You need some help we'll get you set up but have u even cycled b4?

 

[Roy369]

Yes, we understand. You need a pct!

Winny needs to be ed! 24 hr 1/2 life oral or inject I can see u dont really know much. So if oral you need a liver gaurd. Supps for bp, chloresterol. An I would run a light ai. What if you get gyno? What if hair starts falling out? To me you need some research ur cycle looks good DROP t-3 you have to tapper! Dont mess with this. Save it we'll use it later.

What ester of primo do u have? That determins length.

Id run winny on back end to dry out you prob gonna want sm joint support. You need some help we'll get you set up but have u even cycled b4?

I have cycled before but that was in my early 20s and I'mm 33 now. Ok winny ed(mine is injectable), What is a Light ai? I'll drop the T3, I alredy take finasteride. The primo I have is primo 200 methenolone enanthate red dragon, hope this helps and thank you very much.

 

[ppgfreak]

Looks like a nice cycle bro! Keep your diet in check and you will do great!

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[Roy369]

Bump

 

[dylangemelli]

Thank you very much! I'll get more primo and run it 14-16wks. and save the T3 for another cycle or get rid of it. I'll follow the PCT combo you gave me as well. I should run the test 14-16 wks also and is 250 ok? What about winny, I have 100mg/20ml bottle. I'm sorry I haven't run a cycle for many years I need to do more research before I start.

1-14 test e 500 mg wk
1-14 primo 500 mg wek
1-14 aromiasin 12.5 mg eod
11-16 winstrol 50 mg day
11-16 n2guard
9-16 hcg 500 ius wk or hcgenerate

pct
17-20 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
17-20 unleashed/post cycle combo
17-20 forma stanzol

 

[goin on 4T]

So I should run the winny at the beginning of the cycle? I have 40 shots @ 50 so I'll run it @ 50 ed for the first 40 days. Is 50mcg of T3 ok for the entire 10 weeks? Also, when should I start PCT and what do I run? Thank you very much for your help.

No run winny at the end of the cycle. Please don't listen to Quantz he has no idea what he is saying. Dbol is a kick starter not winny. Take winny at the end of the cycle to harden up the muscles.

 

[ppgfreak]

No run winny at the end of the cycle. Please don't listen to Quantz he has no idea what he is saying. Dbol is a kick starter not winny. Take winny at the end of the cycle to harden up the muscles.

Im with him^ dbol is a kick starter, winny will help you look hard and cut the last couple weeks.

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[Roy369]

1-14 test e 500 mg wk
1-14 primo 500 mg wek
1-14 aromiasin 12.5 mg eod
11-16 winstrol 50 mg day
11-16 n2guard
9-16 hcg 500 ius wk or hcgenerate

pct
17-20 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
17-20 unleashed/post cycle combo
17-20 forma stanzol[/QUOTE

Thanks again dylangemelli!

 

[dylangemelli]

1-14 test e 500 mg wk
1-14 primo 500 mg wek
1-14 aromiasin 12.5 mg eod
11-16 winstrol 50 mg day
11-16 n2guard
9-16 hcg 500 ius wk or hcgenerate

pct
17-20 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
17-20 unleashed/post cycle combo
17-20 forma stanzol[/QUOTE

Thanks again dylangemelli!

anytime bro, im happy to help!

 

[Roy369]

anytime bro, im happy to help!

Dylangemelli, I'm pretty sure I can get all the PCT since its non Rx. What about aromiasin? Does that come in a supp form? Should I not start my cycle until I get it? I only have 250 at 10 shots of test but I can get more in a couple weeks when I pick up more primo. Is 250 a week a waste? Thanks again, I'll post before pics soon

 

[dylangemelli]

Dylangemelli, I'm pretty sure I can get all the PCT since its non Rx. What about aromiasin? Does that come in a supp form? Should I not start my cycle until I get it? I only have 250 at 10 shots of test but I can get more in a couple weeks when I pick up more primo. Is 250 a week a waste? Thanks again, I'll post before pics soon

you can get aromasin at chemicalneed.com... its listed under liquid stane and its on sale right now

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[liffalot]

Looks good if you take into account what Dylan said about the primo and the T3.

With all that test and DHT though, I would throw HCGenerate into the mix for your PCT as well. It and Unleashed do well on their own, but running a lot of test, it never hurts to make sure you're completely revitalized afterwards. I might also add some bridge if you're dead set on running the T3 at some point to keep from losing your gains.

If you have the cash, you could throw some OSTA sarms in at 10-15 mgs as well. It really should be a PCT staple, and it will certainly prevent loss of your muscle mass. If you decide to, always shop Sarmssearch - nothing else compares.

Edit: Ah I see you're planning on running HCGenerate during cycle now, also a good plan. Leave it out of the PCT if thats the case.

 

[Roy369]

Looks good if you take into account what Dylan said about the primo and the T3.

With all that test and DHT though, I would throw HCGenerate into the mix for your PCT as well. It and Unleashed do well on their own, but running a lot of test, it never hurts to make sure you're completely revitalized afterwards. I might also add some bridge if you're dead set on running the T3 at some point to keep from losing your gains.

If you have the cash, you could throw some OSTA sarms in at 10-15 mgs as well. It really should be a PCT staple, and it will certainly prevent loss of your muscle mass. If you decide to, always shop Sarmssearch - nothing else compares.

Edit: Ah I see you're planning on running HCGenerate during cycle now, also a good plan. Leave it out of the PCT if thats the case.

Thank you Liffalot. I have time until PCT so I'll look into the sarms. Also, since I have lots of test/winny I'm worried about sheding, I have mpb but I haven't shed in many years do to the fact that I've been taking proscar and nioxin for years. I've used winny and primo before and been ok bit never test. If I do start to shed should I lower the test or not use winny? Thanks for your info.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thank you Liffalot. I have time until PCT so I'll look into the sarms. Also, since I have lots of test/winny I'm worried about sheding, I have mpb but I haven't shed in many years do to the fact that I've been taking proscar and nioxin for years. I've used winny and primo before and been ok bit never test. If I do start to shed should I lower the test or not use winny? Thanks for your info.

you could always switch winny to anavar bro...

 

[Roy369]

you could always switch winny to anavar bro...

That would be my preference but I can't get ahold of the stuff. Proscar and nioxin have been good to me so I should be good. I've used winny a couple times and had no problems it's the test I'm worried about. Thanks Dylan

 

[dylangemelli]

That would be my preference but I can't get ahold of the stuff. Proscar and nioxin have been good to me so I should be good. I've used winny a couple times and had no problems it's the test I'm worried about. Thanks Dylan

anytime bro! good luck!

 

[liffalot]

you could always switch winny to anavar bro...

Dylan loves his var!

But with good reason - nice an clean, no problems, no side effects.